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    You could try re-initializing and full formatting...

    You could try re-initializing and full formatting the drive from scratch.
    If windows is going to be able to recognize the disk at all, this should do it.
    The only caveat here is if you have...
  2. That seems strange to me. Any new Win 7 install...

    That seems strange to me.
    Any new Win 7 install I have done boots to a full desktop in under 40 seconds, some in 30 seconds. And that is with a conventional SATA 600 HDD; not an SSD.
    This is way...
  3. What Are The Most Common Complaints With Win 7?

    I happen to think Win 7 works pretty well and is way ahead of Vista in most respects.
    And I personally don't care for Win 8.1's cheesy tile interface, though there are lots of folks who seem to like...
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    Typically any W7 HP x64 installation I have done...

    Typically any W7 HP x64 installation I have done installs about 135 updates right after installation, so I don't think what you are seeing is unusual at all.
    Just a fact of life with Windows. Takes...
  5. Clint; that looks like what I need. I ordered one...

    Clint; that looks like what I need. I ordered one up so we shall see. Price is right. It sounds like it comes with a 20 pin USB3 plug which should plug right into mobo.

    Berton; the mobo is a new...
  6. OK got it. I thought it might be something along...

    OK got it. I thought it might be something along those lines.
    I guess to make them into USB 3 connectors I will have to replace the connectors and the cabling to the mobo.

    Thanks a bunch,
    rstew
  7. How To Upgrade USB 2 Panel Connectors To USB 3?

    If you connect a pair of older front panel USB 2 connectors (that terminate in a standard 2-row 20 pin plug) to a newer mobo that has a blue 2-row 40 pin connector (using an adapter), does that make...
  8. Follow up: Well the transfer finally finished...

    Follow up:
    Well the transfer finally finished after close to 48 hours.
    Upon checking it looks like everything is there, and it all seems to work.
    I still can't believe that this represents a...
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    Who would have guessed that the mundane topic of...

    Who would have guessed that the mundane topic of drive formatting would generate such a heated debate?

    I am back to my original premise (editted slightly with some words by satrow):

    If it's a...
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    [QUOTE=Drew1903;1001374]"I wouldn't bother with a...

    [QUOTE=Drew1903;1001374]"I wouldn't bother with a full format on a new drive, quick is more than enough and who needs to wait that long to use your new toys?" (Paul)


    Absolutely. Basic rule of...
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    This has been a very informative topic. Many...

    This has been a very informative topic. Many thanks to all who contributed.

    My personal conclusion:
    If it's a new drive, a full format will do.
    If it's a used drive being re-purposed (and is...
  12. Ok, never really thought of it in those terms....

    Ok, never really thought of it in those terms. Still seems incredibly slow.
    We actually are away for a few days and I had to leave with the transfer still in progress.
    Hopefully when we get back it...
  13. Painfully Slow Data Transfer Rate Using Windows Easy Transfer!

    After a few miscues I finally got Easy Transfer going so as to migrate some 192 GB of files and data from my old Vista 32 bit machine to a new Win7 64 bit machine.
    As transfer started I noted a time...
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    FN; I did check and made sure it was the 32 bit...

    FN;
    I did check and made sure it was the 32 bit version in the old machine.

    jwoods;
    I followed that link and searched a couple of other links. Went into the registry and sure enough found one...
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    OK now of course Easy Transfer does not seem to...

    OK now of course Easy Transfer does not seem to want to start.
    As soon as I try to open it, I get a window saying I am logged on using a temporary account; please restart and try again. I have tried...
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    OK good to know. Its not like I have any deathly...

    OK good to know.
    Its not like I have any deathly sensitive information to hide, but its nice to know that if an old drive happened to find its way into recycling or something, no one could extract...
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    Berton & FN; Ok thanks for the info. I will give...

    Berton & FN;
    Ok thanks for the info. I will give that a try and see how it goes.

    rstew
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    So if I am understanding the above correctly, for...

    So if I am understanding the above correctly, for most practical purposes a full Windows format should render any previous data on a SATA drive as unrecoverable?

    rstew
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    [Solved] Troubles Upgrading to Win7 HP x 64

    Trying to upgrade my old clunky Gateway running 32 bit Vista, to a new rig I have built running 64 bit Win7 HP.
    I figured I would clone the old C: drive to a new empty drive, and swap that into the...
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    Full formatting question

    Does doing a full format on a drive pretty much guarantee that your data could not be retreived?

    rstew
  21. Sticky: My writeup was intended for the common case of...

    My writeup was intended for the common case of replacing an older small drive with a newer larger one.
    These days lots of folks are replacing the main system volume with an SSD as you did, whilst...
  22. Sticky: The main document above (in the opening post) was...

    The main document above (in the opening post) was modified today, to add how to do a full format of a new drive.
    Its necessary to do this separately because the New Basic Volume tool provides for a...
  23. Sticky: In thinking further about all this, I wonder why...

    In thinking further about all this, I wonder why Windows does not include a utility to walk the user through new drive intializing and set up; once it detects a new drive?
    Seems like it would be...
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    I find 100,000 hours MTBF way more believable for...

    I find 100,000 hours MTBF way more believable for a drive. I think 1.2 million is utter nonsense.
    I also think the 40 C case temperature limit is not well known or understood.

    rstew
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    So I went to the Seagate site to see what they...

    So I went to the Seagate site to see what they say about expected MTBF for their drives.
    Amazingly they say its about 1.2 MILLION hours!! That is about 136 years.
    From their site:
    "AFR and MTBF...
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