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    First Time PC Build

    Well, I went and told the grandkid (14) that when he came to visit , we would build a computer together. Been doing a lot of study and have collected the parts. I was shooting for a 6 mo- one year old technology to save some bread (cutting edge can be quite expensive). Anywho, heres what I've assembled, awaiting the grandson's arrival this week. Comments? Am enlisting gurus for the next three weeks of building. I'm fairly confident on the mechanical put-together side, kind of shaky on the software/BIOS/drivers side.
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    Case: Antec SONATA II ATX Mid Tower 450Watt SmartPower 2.0 Power Supply
    Motherboard :GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 Intel P965 l
    DVD Burner: LITE-ON 20X DVD

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    Re: First Time PC Build

    Good luck to you in building your own system. I have found it's probably the BEST way to really know just what's inside the box.
    The system you describe sounds like a good solid one and should provide you and your grandson with a good appreciation of computer hardware.
    After building all of my systems except the very first one many years ago, I wouldn't do it any other way.
    If this is your first, check out this GUIDE TO BUILDING YOUR OWN SYSTEM from Directron Company. There are also other good "How To" guides in that same site.
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    Re: First Time PC Build

    You may just want to have a read of this article and possibly print it out prior to starting. I would guess that the BIOS issues have all been sorted out by now, but it sounds like it will be worth making sure yours is up to date. Looks like a good selection of kit to me though - just don't overdo the thermal paste!
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    Re: First Time PC Build

    Thanks for the references. Gigabyte seems to have kept up with now BIOS versions and have some good references on their website, if you look hard enough. They even have a recommended BIOS rev for each CPU-(Ver 11 for mine), and some suggestions on using their BIOS utility- "With Q-Flash

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    Re: First Time PC Build

    With any luck, your first boot up should go well. After all, your grocery list looks good. If however, you experience problems on the first couple of boot ups, consider your power supply as a potential problem area.

    A year and a half ago, I built a new system using the Antec Sonata that had a NeoPower HE 430Watt PSU. I was having failure after failure in trying to get a stable session on boot up. It turned out the Antec NeoPower PSU had some deficiencies and aside from the fact that the specs said it should have worked, it failed to provide enough power to the various pieces of hardware. I took the entire unit into my supplier who proved that the PSU was OK for a low end unit but not good for the hardware I had. We replaced the NeoPower 430 with an Antec TruePower 550 and all was well.

    So, if that first boot up or two causes some heart palpitations, think of your 450Watt SmartPower PSU as a possible problem area and the need to get a PSU with a higher rating.

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    Re: First Time PC Build

    Usually default settings are fine - my experience with Gigabyte motherboards has always been good and I have never (yet) had a problem with RAM.
    I would definitely follow that advice on the BIOS - I have had issues in the past when doing a rebuild where I tried to go from rev 03 to rev 21 in one jump! <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
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    Re: First Time PC Build

    Well, Success! Almost...

    Turned on the new machine, BIOS came up, made a few small changes , waited a couple of hours to warm up, and installed a purchased Windows Media Center 2005 (OEM). Formatted the HD, and proceeded with install. The third disk "updates" failed with an error "MCInstaller.exe Application Error The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135) Click OK to terminate the application."
    So I figure I can deal with this later... it boots OK and now I want to activate the Windows firewall before I surf the net for the real apps i will be using ( Comodo Firewall, Firefox/Thunderbird, SpyBot, Adaware, Avast, etc. BUT, the confuser er, computer, Security Center says "The Security Center is unavailable because the "Security Center" has not started or was stopped" Is this because the WIn Firewall was on one of the service packs?? I guess I could D/L a firewall and install it on a floppy to get around this, or should I fix the update problem first? Everything seems to use the net to diagnose and update problems, and I'm reluctant to connect without protection.

    Ideas?
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    Re: First Time PC Build

    UPDATE: Previously I said I couldn't start the Windows Firewall, well in addition I can't get to the "Help and Support " function on the start menu either, ( "not found") and I tried to do a quick format to start over, " Windows was unable to complete the format", But on the bright side the "Tour Windows XP" feature doesn't work either. I can get the start menu up, can select My Computer/C: and see the contents of the Windows folder, click on a bitmap image and the WIndows Picture and Fax viewer comes up OK. But i can't copy a text file to disc in the Floppy (insert disc) (Oh and the Floppy activity LED is on continuously). The Search function comes up but wont find files that are obviously there. Do these symptoms suggest something ???

    Thanks, Kit

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    Re: First Time PC Build

    Try looking at this article and see if it describes your problem. Also make absolutely sure that all your hardware is on the Hardware Compatibility List.

    If I had an installation that had gone so horribly wrong then I would start again. Even if you manage to get this one working you'll never know what's not right underneath.

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    Re: First Time PC Build

    I agree with Stuat. Wipe the drive and start over.

    You might want to DL all the third party apps you want to install on another machine and burn them to CD and install from there or drop the installation files on the desktop and then install. That will keep you off the net until you've covered your <img src=/S/moon.gif border=0 alt=moon width=15 height=15>.
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    Re: First Time PC Build

    After many reinstall attempts we finally got it reinstalled and working. Loaded the OS and overwrote the bad upload instead of trying to "restore" the old one.
    The OEM Win XP had two discs and a third disc: Update Rollup 2 for WIn XP Media center edition 2005 . Couldn't get the Rollup to work "MCinstaller" error.
    Will try to get it thru auto updates.
    Otherwise all OK. Thanks for your suggestions!

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    Re: First Time PC Build

    Glad to hear it worked out. Those updates should be available online. Once you get those, I'd suggest that you make an image backup (I use True Image) of the system in it's "pristine" state so that if anything goes wrong in the future, you can always restore the image and be back where you started.
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