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    Which Folder to Keep?

    I have a WinXP MCE PC, which I used to restore a full backup from a stolen XP Pro PC, which was itself upgraded from a previous version of Windows. I now have system folders named Windows, Winold, and WinXP. The Winold and WinXP folders have dates in March of this year (when I did the Restore), while the Windows folder has today's date. My questions:

    1. Am I right that the Windows folder would be the one currently "in use"?

    2. Is there any reason I should keep all or part of the other two folders?

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    Re: Which Folder to Keep?

    John,

    Let me get this straight.

    You have a legit copy of WINXP.
    You tried to restore a backup from A STOLEN PC, which was an upgrade from another version of Windows.
    You now have THREE Windows folders.

    You want to know what to do with this mess?

    <big>IF you DO have a legit CD of WinXP</big> , FORMAT the drive and do a CLEAN install of Windows. Forget about the others.

    Or do I have this all wrong?
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    Re: Which Folder to Keep?

    >> IF you DO have a legit CD of WinXP , FORMAT the drive and do a CLEAN install of Windows. Forget about the others. Or do I have this all wrong? <<

    I started out a few years ago with a PC running Win 98. At some point I bought a new case, mobo, and RAM and migrated the HDD to them, then bought an upgrade copy of XP Pro and installed it over the previous copy of Windows. Worked fine until February, when the PC was stolen. I had the PC backed up to an external HDD, so in March I bought an XP MCE machine and used the backup program (Retrospect) to pull the data off the external hard drive. Have had to reinstall a few programs, but for the most part the restore worked like a charm. So I DON'T see the need to wipe the hard drive and start over. I just want to get rid of any unneeded Windows folders.

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    Re: Which Folder to Keep?

    My two-cents worth: Run a CMD prompt and the SET command with no parameters. You should be able to review items like PATH, SYSTEMROOT, TEMP, and TMP to see whassup. I would then rename the two unneeded directories for a week or two before blowing 'em away. The rename or blow away could be a "refusal" problem but that river can be crossed if you come to it.

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    Re: Which Folder to Keep?

    >> Run a CMD prompt and the SET command with no parameters. You should be able to review items like PATH, SYSTEMROOT, TEMP, and TMP to see whassup. <<

    PATH reference is C:WINDOWSSystem 32
    SYSTEMROOT is C:WINDOWS
    TEMP and TMP are both COCUME~1JOHNLOCALS~1TEMP (and ending in TMP for TMP)

    >>I would then rename the two unneeded directories for a week or two before blowing 'em away. <<

    Since neither directory showed up in SET, is this really necessary?

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    Re: Which Folder to Keep?

    <hr>Since neither directory showed up in SET, is this really necessary?<hr>
    That's up to you. Quoting from your original post, I thought YOU wanted to blow 'em away:
    <hr>2. Is there any reason I should keep all or part of the other two folders? <hr>

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    Re: Which Folder to Keep?

    John,
    How about taking a look at your boot.ini file in the C: root?
    It should mention which folder it is looking at in order to boot up.

    Al's suggestion to rename the other folders first, is just a good precautionary measure to take before totally deleting them.

    Another thought is that it may not allow you to delete them, ( or rename them ) thinking they are system filesfolders.
    In that case get a copy of UNLOCKER and use that to delete them.

    You can get it at UNLOCKER
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    Re: Which Folder to Keep?

    Or, as pointed out by <!profile=DocWatson>DocWatson<!/profile> in <post:=660,632>post 660,632</post:>, Dr. Delete

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    Re: Which Folder to Keep?

    >> How about taking a look at your boot.ini file in the C: root? It should mention which folder it is looking at in order to boot up. <<

    WINDOWS is the only folder referenced in that file. OK, I'll tack an extra letter on the end of the WINOLD and WINXP folder names, and see what happens for the next few days.

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    Re: Which Folder to Keep?

    I just happened to notice that my Windows directory takes up 2.6 gig of space on the hard drive. So, I guess if it works you stand a chance of eventually recovering something on the order of 5 gig of drive space.

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    Re: Which Folder to Keep?

    Those two "extra" folders are expected since you did a "Restore" or "Upgrade" install of Windows. They are "backup" files which Windows uses should the Restore/Upgrade install fail, and thus return the system to the state it was before the Restore/Upgrade install attempt. They are in essence a duplicate of your old system. They can be safely deleted as they have no connection with your current Windows system.

    As Al suggested, it is always prudent to rename folders/files which you aren't quite sure about before deleting them to see how things work afterward, e.g,. rebooting and using the system for a few days. Better to be safe than sorry. <img src=/S/wink.gif border=0 alt=wink width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Which Folder to Keep?

    >> As Al suggested, it is always prudent to rename folders/files which you aren't quite sure about before deleting them to see how things work afterward, e.g,. rebooting and using the system for a few days. Better to be safe than sorry. <<

    On my first reboot after renaming the two "old" folders. I got error messages about DLL's in WIN







    >> As Al suggested, it is always prudent to rename folders/files which you aren't quite sure about before deleting them to see how things work afterward, e.g,. rebooting and using the system for a few days. Better to be safe than sorry. <<

    On my first reboot after renaming the two "old" folders, I got error messages during startup about DLL's which were supposed to be in WINXPSYSTEM32. Have to do a Google search on the DLL names and see what program they might be "attached" to.

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    Re: Which Folder to Keep?

    Well, that doesn't sound friendly! <img src=/S/RollEyes.gif border=0 alt=RollEyes width=19 height=19> As I wrote before, typically those two folders are created by Windows as its own backup in case the installation fails and it needs to revert the system back to where it was before the installation process began. Once the installation is completely successfully, neither of the folders nor any of the files they contain are usually needed. Why in your case Windows is looking for .dll files in one/both of those folders is strange, at least in my experience. Sorry everything didn't work out as you/we had hoped. <IMG SRC=http://www.the-highway.com/Smileys/sad02.gif>
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    Re: Which Folder to Keep?

    Oh boy, John, Jeff's right that doesn't sound very good for a start. If it were one or two DLLs one might think about "re-registering" them with the OS, but I'd wager that this is a bigger problem than one or two or three files! Since you DO have the backup to restore from, you might be better off in the long run, since the machine was presumed "gone", to do the restore again to an EMPTY drive and be done with it.

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    Re: Which Folder to Keep?

    >> Oh boy, John, Jeff's right that doesn't sound very good for a start. If it were one or two DLLs one might think about "re-registering" them with the OS, but I'd wager that this is a bigger problem than one or two or three files! <<

    It was only 2 DLL's. I figured out they were for the NVIDIA software my GPU used, and downloaded a new copy of the software from the NVIDIA website. Once I installed that, the DLL errors disappeared.

    >> Since you DO have the backup to restore from, you might be better off in the long run, since the machine was presumed "gone", to do the restore again to an EMPTY drive and be done with it. <<

    Except the backup was from an XP Pro machine, and the replacement PC has XP Media Center Edition. Didn't want to lose the "extras".

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