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    Startup

    Is there a program which will show me what drivers are loading at startup and indicate those which may be corrupted?
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    Re: Startup

    Jack,
    MicrosoftSysinternals AUTORUNS
    will give you a complete listing of everything loaded at startup. I don't think it would be able to determine if any are corrupt though.
    Much more complete than MSCONFIG.
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    Re: Startup

    Yeah Jack, Autoruns is a great start in your analysis. What's happening at start time that has your concern? Mebbe someone will spot something in your description that's familiar. What OS are you running?

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    Re: Startup

    Here's my system info.
    OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
    OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    System Manufacturer VIA Technologies, Inc.
    System Model KM266-8233
    System Type X86-based PC
    Processor x86 Family 6 Model 7 Stepping 1 AuthenticAMD ~1199 Mhz
    BIOS Version/Date Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG, 3/26/2002
    SMBIOS Version 2.2
    Windows Directory C:WINDOWS
    System Directory C:WINDOWSsystem32
    Boot Device DeviceHarddiskVolume1
    Locale Canada
    Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)"
    Total Physical Memory 512.00 MB
    Available Physical Memory 123.59 MB
    Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
    Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
    Page File Space 738.37 MB
    Page File Cagefile.sys
    On startup, I can hear various components kicking in but there is a whirring sound that begins to pick up then dies and tries again and again. Each time, the computer tries, there is a short power interruption then the boot starts again. This happens about 4-5 times before the screen tells me there has been a power failure etc. and offers a choice of startup methods. I choose "Normal Startup" or "Last good startup" and Wndows begins to load and then I'm offered a disk consistency check because there has been a power failure etc.. When I wait for the disk check to complete, it says that all files are OK or occasionally one of two files are repaired or replaced. After going through this about 4-5 times Windows then starts successfully.
    Once the computer has run and is warmed up, I can do a restart and everything is fine. It's only after the computer has cooled down after being shut down that the problems occur.
    I have run chkdsk/f to no avail.
    I figured it must be a bad driver.
    What do you think?

    Regards,
    Jack

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    Re: Startup

    Oh boy Jack, this doesn't sound like any kind of driver or other software problem to me. You might want to see what a few other Loungers think before you jump. The "whirring" sound you mention and the "power interruption" problem point to a hardware failure to me, but I don't know if it's CD drive, hard drive OR possibly the power supply. If you normally do so and haven't TODAY, I'd run a full disk backup, quickly, so you don't lose anything! Those disk checks you mention ARE chkdsk runs, so that's why you're not finding anything bad when you run it too.

    Where I'm a bit confused is that, once you DO get it warmed up and running, it stays that way until it's shut down and cools off. I don't know if that's an indication of power supply or a hard drive that's having a hard time spinning up to speed (my first choice).

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    Re: Startup

    Sounds very similar to what was happening to my old HP laptop. Fix: Hard drive replaced.
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    Re: Startup

    My guess is, Power Supply problem.
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    Re: Startup

    Thanks all for the responses.
    I'll have the hard drive and power supply checked.
    BTW: I have backed up the computer with Acronis True image so I'm safe.
    Thanks for the advice.

    Cheers,
    Jack

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    Re: Startup

    That "whirring" sound is what got me, Bob, but I guess it's a six-of-one and half-a-dozen of the other situation, for either drive or PS are gonna require uncovering the box.

    Jack: let us know how you make out...

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    Re: Startup

    Let's not rule out FANS either. A bad fan bearing on either the power supply or the HS/F assembly would need immediately attention as well. Both would cause a heat issue, system shutdowns and/or erratic behavior.
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    Re: Startup

    AND a whirring, whining sound.
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    Re: Startup

    I had a similar set of start up problems with a machine a few years ago (and it would have been the same vintage as yours) where the problem was with the capacitors on the motherboard.

    It took a lot of googling to find the answer, but I eventually got the motherboard replaced under warranty. Cant remember exact details now, though.

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    Re: Startup

    Hello there.
    Just a short note to let you know that my startup problem was the disk drive.
    Installed a new drive and loaded Acronis True Image backup and all is well now.
    Thanks to all of you who chimed in to offer suggestions.
    Cheers,
    Jack
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