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    Reading External HD

    Greetings!!

    Here is the situation. I have an older HD. I am trying to access the data via external hookup using an IDE to USB. I have done this before using other HDs. However this one is giving me fits.

    Here is what I have so far:
    1) When connected, my system recognizes the "new" hardware.
    2) The Driver is loaded and shows as good. When looking at the device manager I can see the drive.
    3) when using the Computer Management tool, Disk Management function. I can see the Drive. It has the followng info:

    Volume Layout Type File System Status Capacity Free Space % Free Fault Tolerance Overhead
    PE1500 Partition Basic FAT Healthy (Unknown Partition) 306 MB 104 MB 33 % No 0%

    WinXP (C Partition Basic NTFS Healthy (System) 36.95 GB 10.63 GB 28 % No 0%

    When I right click, everything is greyed out except for Delete partition and help.

    What happens if I delete the partition? Will the data be accessable?

    I cannot see the drive when using explorer.

    What do I need to do to get to the data???
    What other info do you need?

    Thanks,
    Brad

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    Re: Reading External HD

    Additional info. Just found out the drive is from a win 3.1 OS.

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    Re: Reading External HD

    Can you see the drive in My Computer ???

    The OS installed, shouldn't matter. It should appear as a seperate drive with it's own drive letter and you should be able to explore it from there. I have a couple old 3.1 drives with the OS and programs intact and they are readily accessable from My computer using an IDE to USB interface.
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    Re: Reading External HD

    NO, cannot see the drive in explorer.

    any ideas?

    BRad

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    Re: Reading External HD

    I think the clue here is the statement that it sees an "unknown" partition.
    If you delete the partition, you will almost surely lose any data on the drive.

    Was this drive on an older type OEM system with it's own boot partition?

    Is there a drive letter assigned to the drive?
    If not, can you give it one, via Computer Management tool?
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    Re: Reading External HD

    Probably. It is from 1994 Gateway, P4 66 machine.

    Put the drive back in the machine attempted to startup again. Got a failure on drive 0. got through the abort, fail etc... to the c prompt. So I know I can see the info on the HD from the machine while in DOS.
    From my machind, I cannot see the drive through explorer. But can in comp management. Cannot reasign drive letters. everything is greyed out except for delete partition.


    Any next steps? Stick it in another machine?

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    Re: Reading External HD

    How about My Computer ??? I understood that you couldn't see it in Windows Explorer.

    If you can "see" the contents in DOS, have you tried to use DOS to move the files from the old drive to a folder on your existing hard drive ??
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    Re: Reading External HD

    It sure sounds like there is an OEM boot partition that is getting in the way somehow.

    If you are comfortable with getting inside the box, how about connecting the drive as a slave to your C: drive on the IDE cable? If that works and you can read files, etc, If you need any of the data files or whatever on there, movecopy them to your C: temporarily.

    Then repartition and reformat the old drive. and try the external hookup to the USB port.
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    Re: Reading External HD

    No such luck with using My Computer. Do not see the drive.

    The "old Computer" is having trouble reading the HD. Get a general data read on drive. go through the abort, and then get a Fater error 286.2180 load program failed error code 1. not sure if this is directly related or part of what we have loading.

    It then continues , gives a windows 3.11 splash screen, then stops.

    from that point I cannot do anything.

    IF I go a different route, and get to dos, how do I connect my Laptop to the old PC to get the data?

    Thanks,
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    Re: Reading External HD

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    <hr>IF I go a different route, and get to dos, how do I connect my Laptop to the old PC to get the data?<hr>
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    I'm not sure you can connect your laptop to a PC that old. But you might try a Crossover Cable setup.
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    Re: Reading External HD

    For what its worth, here's what I had to do when trying to keep info from an old Win3.11 HDD.

    I had thought that I could run it as a slave drive in my new XP machine, but the HDD didn'thave the option to run as a slave. So I made the XP HDD into the slave with the Win3.11 as master and booted into 3.11. (13 seconds!!) Then copied the data I wanted to the slave drive. Powered down and disconnected the old HDD, made the new HDD Master again and booted into XP.

    I was nervous that the 3.11 HDD would recognise the larger drive, and was prepared to have to burn data to CD, but all was OK and worked well

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    Re: Reading External HD

    All, Thanks for the help so far.... We had to call our IT support to get this thing going.


    Thanks again,

    Brad

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    Re: Reading External HD

    Brad,

    Can you tell us what they did to resolve this?

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    Re: Reading External HD

    All,
    Found that the HD was formatted in FAT16. We then found a similar system in FAT16. Slaved the old HD to that system, then in DOS did xcopy to get all of the necessary data. Also found that we had many bad sectors, including the boot sector.


    Brad

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