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    Insert Disk-Revisited (XP home/SP2)

    Hi All,

    About 2 years ago, I posted a problem about searching for a file using Windows Search. This was in <post#=518688>post 518688</post#> . I don't think a positive resolution was ever reached.

    One of the suggestions made at the time was to use a CD rather than zip disks. OK, I've put all the files onto a thumb drive. I don't recall if I copied the folders/files from my zip disks or from the original hard drive.

    One additional piece of info that doesn't look like made it into the original thread: the files were backed up on floppy disks (yes, this goes back a long time). So I had folders on a single floppy disk called "Word Tips" and "Excel Tips", etc. When the floppy disk got to a point of not being able to hold any more files, I started a second disk. I restructured the folders on the hard disk as "Word Tips 1", "Word Tips 2", etc. and put them under a parent folder just called "Word Tips". The idea was just to copy an entire ...1 folder from the hard disk to the floppy as backup. All new tips from that point on went into the ...2 folder. When I copied the files from the hard disk to the zip disks, the hard disk folder structure was also maintained.

    For those coming in late on this, when I started doing searches on my hard disk (searching at the parent "Word Tips" so as to get the subfolders ...1 and ...2), I would get a message like "Please insert the last disk of the multi-volume set and click OK to continue". Huh? In the original thread, I think we dismissed ideas like zip files being the cause.

    Anyway, I am now getting this error msg on my thumb drive! I just click cancel and Windows continues the search. But it is still a pain.

    It does look like some kind of file corruption. From a limited experiment, when I do a search for a file in my Excel Tips (thereby including the 1 and ...2 subfolders), I get the error msg. I tried one search in my Word Tips and did NOT get the error msg.

    Any thoughts? Even how to find the corrupted file?

    TIA

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    Re: Insert Disk-Revisited (XP home/SP2)

    Did you make these floppies using a ZIP program and it made the two continuous floppies?

    If so, that is your problem, instead of "Copying" the "Zipped" files to your hard drive or thumb drive, "Unzip" them to these device(s).

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    Re: Insert Disk-Revisited (XP home/SP2)

    Hi Dave,

    I am about 100% sure that I did not use a zip program to copy the files to the floppy. I would just copy whatever file was on the hard disk to the floppy.

    But I do have a vague recollection of one day getting an error msg indicating it was time for a 2nd floppy. It was not a disk full but something similar. From memory, it seems like it was something like there was no more room to hold file names in the directory. I tend to use long names to make searching easier. I also recall checking the space on the floppy and only 1.2 MB were in use (wow, seems so tiny <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>).

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    Re: Insert Disk-Revisited (XP home/SP2)

    Fred,

    This may be a wild guess but I think by naming your disks Word Tips 1 & 2 ( numerically ) you are fooling the search in to <big>thinking</big> you have a multi-volume disk set. The numerical naming addition of identical file names is how most files are named when created by a file splitter program. ie: data 1, data 2, data 3.

    Just to test the theory out, rename the disks Word Tips One, Word Tips Two, etc.

    I may be way off base on this but who knows?
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    Re: Insert Disk-Revisited (XP home/SP2)

    Bob,

    Good guess but no.

    Actually the folders are called "Excel-Tips1" and "Excel-Tips2". When I renamed them to "Excel Tips uno" and "Excel Tips dos", I got the same error.

    Also, I have a "Word-Tips1" and "Word-Tips2" and have no similar problem.

    I'm guessing, as others have suggested, that there's a corrupt file in "Excel-Tips1". I just need to watch the search and see if I can guess the file. Problem is that I don't think the search is done alphabetically; rather it looks like the search is done in the order that the files are stored or the names appear in the folder's directory. Maybe I'll try moving out non-text files to another folder that won't be searched. I'm thinking that a text file, which is used for most of my tips, won't likely to be corrupted.

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    Re: Insert Disk-Revisited (XP home/SP2)

    If one copied files to the floppy and was asked to insert a second floppy then these two set of files are linked.
    I can not remember when this was intoduced in Windows, but that is what it appears to have happened. One my look at the file listings of both floppies and one "MAY" see the same file at the end of the first and at the beginning of the second.

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    Re: Insert Disk-Revisited (XP home/SP2)

    Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
    The similarity to split file naming was what caught my eye though.
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    Re: Insert Disk-Revisited (XP home/SP2)

    Fred,
    WinZip has (had) a feature called "SpanDisk" what this did, was to allow you to Put your files onto multiple floppies. When you put in the first disk to open it, it would run for a bit and then ask you to insert the last disk, then go on from there.Is that by chance what you did?
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    Re: Insert Disk-Revisited (XP home/SP2)

    Hi All,

    Thanks for the help to all. I found the culprit file.

    It is a zipped folder that I named "GoBack to previously selected range" with an extension of .zip. Windows views this as a corrupt file. Without it in the search path, the search completes without the "Insert Disk" message.

    I am attaching it here in case anyone can see what's in it. Since it was in my EXCEL-TIPS1 folder (and no continuation in my EXCEL-TIPS2 folder) and has a name suggestive of an Excel tip, it most likely came from the Excel Lounge and was a zipped spreadsheet that I downloaded. The above name is indicative of what was important to me about the spreadsheet, not necessarily what the original poster was asking about. It has a Creation Date of 11/26/06 and a Modified Date of 6/19/05 (which I've never understood how the Creation Date can be later than the Modified Date, unless it's the creation on my system but the original user's modified date).

    Also, if one of the moderators can do this, I'm wondering if it's possible to recover the original file based on the above information. I tried a search in the Excel Board with some of the words in the name but there are too many matches. It would be great if the searches could be restricted to certain dates or an "older than" criterion but it doesn't work that way.

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    Re: Insert Disk-Revisited (XP home/SP2)

    It's the GoBack add-in for Excel by Jan Karel <!profile=Pieterse>Pieterse<!/profile>. You can download a fresh copy from his JKP-ADS Download page.

    Here is the original thread, easily found by searching for goback: <post:=450,121>post 450,121</post:>.

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    Re: Insert Disk-Revisited (XP home/SP2)

    > It would be great if the searches could be restricted to certain dates or an "older than" criterion but it doesn't work that way.

    The Lounge software is old and fragile - adding additional search capabilities, however attractive that sounds, would probably cause it to crash even more than it does now... <img src=/S/sad.gif border=0 alt=sad width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Insert Disk-Revisited (XP home/SP2)

    John,
    >>what this did, was to allow you to Put your files onto multiple floppies
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    That's what is meant by the term "file splitting" programs. But I guess this wasn't Fred's problem anyway?
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    Re: Insert Disk-Revisited (XP home/SP2)

    Yup thats right Bob. When you put too many files (over 1.44MB) into a Zip file then you could put that Zip onto two or how many ever diskettes were needed. But like you say that wasn't Fred's problem anyway.
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    Re: Insert Disk-Revisited (XP home/SP2)

    Thanks Hans.

    I put the fresh copy into my EXCEL-TIPS1 folder and did a search. Works fine. Not sure how the original got corrupted.

    As I had mentioned, I did do a search. However, there were already 2-3 pages in 2007, so paging back to where this was would have taken a lot of checking. Hence my request for old dates as part of the search criterion. However, I understand the fragility of the SW. Just expressing a wish for the future.

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    Re: Insert Disk-Revisited (XP home/SP2)

    A search for the word goback in the Excel forum yields exactly 3 (three) hits:
    - One by you from 2005
    - One by Pieterse from 2005
    - One from 2000
    The middle one was the obvious candidate, so it wouldn't "have taken a lot of checking" at all.

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