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    General Question VB Program

    Hi,

    I just got a call from a client that I do Access database stuff for. They have a "little conversion program" that is written was written in VB quite a few years ago and is used to transmit data to their bank. The bank has changed their requirements and the program needs to be updated. The programmer made some changes and left on vacation and the transmittals don't work. They sent me the "little program" which is called converter.exe. I can't open it on my computer since I don't have VB on it. I'm not sure I can even help them (especially not without help from the lounge - Hans are you ready for this one LOL), but I certainly don't have any idea until I can open the .exe program. I need to know what version of VB I should try to purchase and my goa is not spend the 1000.00 plus I see on the internet if I can get away with something else. There are so many options and I'm clueless.

    My other question, will it even be possible for me to get behind this .exe file to see the code (not that I'll have a clue as to what to do with it) or is it going to be similar to Access where if its saved as a .mde (I think that's it) file I need the original software. Of course they needed this done Monday so as usual its a time crunch.

    Thanks!
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    Re: General Question VB Program

    An .exe file cannot be edited, it only contains compiled code, not the source text. In this sense it's like an .mde database, but even "worse"

    It is possible that the program has settings that can be changed from within the program; you'd have to start it and look at its menus (if any).

    If the program itself has to be modified, you would need to have the source code of the program in order to do anything with it, and a version of Visual Basic, but even then it would not be easy - it's always difficult to modify a program written by someone else, and even more so if you also have to learn VB. Although the language is basically the same as the VBA in Access, Excel etc., the way you work with it is in some ways different. I myself wouldn't fancy it, especially because the consequences of messing up could be serious - you wouldn't want to transmit incorrect data to the bank!

    (The version of VB you need would probably be VB6 if the program was written some years ago)

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    Re: General Question VB Program

    Thanks Hans. Your response validated what my gut was saying. Personally, I think its the customer service dept of this bank that is making these changes to get this office taken care of. I'm going by there tomorrow to see what is actually stored on their computer and am sincerely hoping for my sake that its just the .exe program because then I'm off the hook!

    Leesha

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    Re: General Question VB Program

    The place to start is NOT with the existing program.

    Whoever is going to sort this out needs to start with a very clear, well documented, understanding of the exact requirements. You must answer the question "What is the program supposed to do?". You will then have a number of choices:
    <UL><LI>Modify the existing program to meet the new requirements. To do this you would need the source code and you would also need to check that the program was well enough documented that you could safely update it.
    <LI>Write a new program, in the language of your choice, that does the job you need done
    <LI>Pay someone else, with appropriate expertise, to produce a new program for you[/list]If you start with the belief that you have to modify the existing program then you are limiting your choices too early.

    StuartR

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    Re: General Question VB Program

    I back Stuart's sentiments.
    I always ask the client for a Goal, and have it written down.
    If it ain't written down, it don't exist, and if you don't have a goal, how can you reach your goal? And if you can't reach your goal, then why should the client pay you, andd so it goes.

    If the client doesn't have a stated goal, then how can you lay out the objectives/steps to reach that goal?

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    Re: General Question VB Program

    Leesha

    I have had a break for a couple of weeks and was told I looked ill just prior to my break after a very stressful period of work where a project team decided that they wanted to implement an integration to my CRM system. I have approximately 2000 users and it is a very complex database and application. Due to the current politics within my company they wanted a "quick win" and get the integration set in using Rapid Application Development methodology (RAD) something I do not want to use as it causes massive problems for complex system. The Project Manager refused to create Function Requirement and therefore I was unable to create a Technical Specification. I have had a series on nose to nose "discussions" with the team and they finally realised that there would be an issue with their ideas as they would have brought down approximately 20 processes in the system and 4 scripts causing the application to crash.

    I have now got a FRS and the Tech Spec is nearly there, they just need to find 3 more developers.....don't do anything until the business tells you their ideas and requirements and the business assumptions and definitely do not change anything until you have seen previous project documention my <img src=/S/2cents.gif border=0 alt=2cents width=15 height=15>
    Jerry

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    Re: General Question VB Program

    Hi Jerry!

    Jeeze, take care of yourself. How will I ever progress in my web stuff if you aren't around to guide me!

    Thanks to Han's advise and the advise of the other members supporting what my gut was screeming .................."don't touch it"........... I didn't take on the job. I went and looked at what was there as they requested and found that the exe. file actually linked to some backend tables in a very old version of Access. Since I didn't have his source code it would've meant starting from scratch. I was willing to do this since the goal was to convert the data they export from their payroll program into tables that could be imported into the banks program. I felt comfortable doing this piece especially since the info would be emailed to the bank and they would do the import on their end. My discomfort came from the fact that the deadline to accomplish this was not realistic as in it wouldn't allow for adequate testing. After all, I work FT as a a nursing administrator and can't let my side stuff interfer with my "real" job. I explained this to them and recommended that we seek an extension till the original programmer returned from vacation. They agreed. Of course guess who ended up having to get the extension LOL! I gladly did it for them and got an extension. Now lets pray the programmer comes back from vacation as scheduled!!!

    Stay well!
    Leesha

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    Re: General Question VB Program

    <img src=/S/cool.gif border=0 alt=cool width=15 height=15> The Management <img src=/S/wartgun.gif border=0 alt=wartgun width=73 height=24> are listening....

    <img src=/S/whisper.gif border=0 alt=whisper width=29 height=17> I have heard that they have extended the deadline from September to January but i won't know until Monday <img src=/S/wink.gif border=0 alt=wink width=15 height=15> I just stuck to my guns <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
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