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    Building a new PC

    It is time to build a new PC as my old one is slowly dying. This is build from the ground up, all custom. My current PC is an old Athlon XP 2500+ overclocked to 3200+ levels (or was before the chip started overheating).

    I am accumulating the components and need to decide on a processor/motherboard combo right now.

    - Should I stick with AMD or switch to an Intel system? I will likely wind up overclocking the system, so need a chip/board/bios that will support overclocking.

    - I want something towards (not necessarily at) the higher-end but yet reasonably priced.

    Any pointers to websites or forums that might specialize in help with building PC's from scratch?

    Thanks.

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    Re: Building a new PC

    AMD or Intel?
    Seems like the question, Ford, GM or Toyota, etc. Each device has it's supporters and detractors. I'm in the Intel camp on this and there are just as many who will vote for AMD.

    Overclocking? I've used Gigabyte for the MB of choice for the last two systems. I Do overclock but only within reason ( slightly ) and Gigabyte boards do allow that. They even include an overclocking utility to use with their MBs.

    I've used DIRECTRON for advice on system builds, in the past. They even have a screen to show you the various combinations of hardware and the cost of addingremoving each item as you select it. Also have a forum on the subject.

    I'm sure if you Google the subject, you will see many sites giving System Build advice.
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    Re: Building a new PC

    I think before any recommendations can really be made, we need to know your budget. You say you want something towards the higher end but reasonably priced but that is too vague to be of use. Higher-end PCs can easily cost $6,000 - $7,000 or more! So is reasonable to you $4,000?

    Having said that, right now, Intels cannot be beat. They outperform, consume less power, and generate less heat than AMD products. AMDs are still great and reliable processors, but just not in the same league as the Intels, for now.

    For beginners (and experienced too) I recommend you check out MWave's "Motherboard Bundles" Wizard. This is a great research tool as it allows you to pick a motherboard, then the Wizard will offer a big list of CPUs and RAM that MWave has already determined are compatible with that motherboard. Or, you can start with a CPU and the wizard will list a bunch of motherboards and RAM options that will support that CPU. This is a great research tool you can use even if you buy elsewhere (although their prices are fairly competitive once you factor in shipping - if you live in the US). However, for only $9 more, MWave will mount the CPU and RAM on the motherboard AND test them. So not only do you know from the Wizard that your components work together, you know your specific parts will not be DOA - a nice warm fuzzy for only $9. [img]/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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    Re: Building a new PC

    For the record, I thought I would update this post with what I did.

    After much research (about 1 month of spare time), reading reviews and forum posts, etc., I brought an Abit IP35 Pro mobo, Intel E6750 CPU, Enzo Ultra-X cooler, BFG 7950 GX OC videi board, Corsair HX620 PSU and 2GB of Corsair 6400HDX dual channel RAM.

    I am now waiting for my 4th mobo replacement from Abit. I have had nothing but problems with this board (as have many others). Support form Abit is awful and I would not recommend purchasing from them. If the product works, great. If it doesn't then you will be relegated to the support forum which is manned by users, not anyone from Abit. Abit rarely, if ever responds to emails. On the forum, they make everyone jump through all sorts of hoops (unplug this, unplug that, change the cables, buy new memory, buy a new PSU, take the board out of the case, etc., etc.), blame problems on memory choice, PSU choice and/or anything else. No one like to have made the wrong choice in their motherboard and they will blame errors on anything else if possible.

    After having spent a lot of time jumping through the hoops to satisfy everyone including going out and buying additional memory to test with, I finally RMA'd the mobo. The 2nd board was the latest revision (1.1 vs. 1.0) worked and I didn't get the C1 memory errors using the original Corsair memory. But then the IDE port didn't work and SATA port 3 performed at degraded speeds. So I RMA'd that one and got board number three. Everything expect SATA port 3 seemed to work (degraded performance again). So now I have been waiting for over 2 weeks for Abit to find a new board for me (I refused to accept their standard replacement of a board that had already been returned to them from some other user). They claim they don't have any 1.1 boards and I will not take a 1.0 board.

    If you have a system that is working from Abit and are happy, then more power to you.

    I don't care if you have built 500 systems using Abit boards and would trust them with your bank account. My experience has not been good with Abit and I have wasted a huge amount of time. I would recommend that you don't take a chance with them if you are considering building a new system. I would suggest you closely read and follow the vendor's forum before settling on a core component like a mobo for a new rig. What you see there is what you might very well experience.

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    Re: Building a new PC

    Twice, I've bought bundles from MWave (mentioned above in Bill's post). Got the motherboard, CPU and RAM; paid the $9 for assembly and testing. And it worked out GREAT. I understand that installing a CPU and RAM is fairly simple and straight forward.... but I still think it's the best $9 one can spend when building their own system.

    There's too many things that CAN go wrong when handling the CPU and installing to the mainboard. In fact, I'd pay $9 more if they'd install the mainboard inside the case <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Building a new PC

    4th IP35 Pro v1.1 has the same SATA port 3 problem. I got this board from Abit. The Abit USA RMA Managed lied to me, telling me that he was going to send me a new board. Instead, he sent me someone else's used and returned board!

    Now what to do? Give up, get a refund and buy form another manufacturer? Try another IP35 Pro board? Upgrade to a newer IX38 board?

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    Re: Building a new PC

    <img src=/S/bingo.gif border=0 alt=bingo width=15 height=22> Buy from another manufacturer !!!
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