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    CrossLoop

    I didn't want to commandeer this thread ( <post:=665,837>post 665,837</post:> ) so I am starting a new thread to ask this question and solicit comments. In that thread, Bernie ( <!profile=bkdc1>bkdc1<!/profile> ) pointed out CrossLoop - Simple Secure Screen Sharing, which incorporates TightVNC as its heart. Since I'm presently using TightVNC 1.3.9.0 I'd like to know if any Loungers, including Bernie, would care to comment on CrossLoop as an alternative. There is LOTS of reading to do at their web site and I'm in the process...

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    Re: CrossLoop

    While waiting to see if Bernie or any other Loungers care to comment, I'll talk to myself. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    At about the time I made the previous post, I sent an email to the CrossLoop folks with two questions I couldn't find the answer to on their web pages. 1) Do I need to uninstall TightVNC 1.3.9, and 2) Does CrossLoop connect two users directly or does a connection go by way of their "servers." When I got home this afternoon, I had an answer already (it's Saturday!) from a fella named Joe Stark, so that's a big plus for them already, in terms of responsiveness. Here's his lengthy and rather detailed reply:
    <hr>Thank you for using Crossloop and taking the time to contact us. Crossloop installs and uses TightVNC version 1.2.9 to send and receive the desktop image of the host. TightVNC version 1.3.9 is available and has some nice new features, screen scaling, support for dual monitors and other enhancements, but basic screen redraw in Version 1.3.9 doesn't work well with Crossloop. We are watching the progress of TightVNC very closely and will upgrade Crossloop as soon as it is feasible. TightVNC will conflict with any other VNC program so you should remove it before installing Crossloop.

    Crossloop will first attempt to establish a Peer to Peer connection in which data is transmitted directly from the "Join" computer to the "Host" computer. This is the optimal connection. If a "Peer to Peer" connection is not possible it will "Fall Back" to a "Relay" connection and all information must go through our server.
    To find out if you have established a Peer to Peer connection first connect to another computer then just click on the Crossloop Icon in the upper left corner of the Crossloop U.I.and choose "About" from the drop down menu. If there is no P2P section with estimated timing at the bottom of the about screen, you have a Relay connection.
    If you can't establish a Peer to Peer connection please notify me and we might be able to find out why you can't.

    This is the way Crossloop works;

    At this time Crossloop works only on Windows operating systems. You install and run the Crossloop client, choose either "Host" or "Join" and enter an access code then click the "Connect" button. Crossloop will automatically enter a 12 digit randomly generated access code on the "Host". The user on the host needs to tell the user on the "Join" end what this access code is so they can enter the same. The users on each end need to communicate by phone, Skype or other direct communication method to share the Access code. You can substitute your own access code as long as it is 8 characters long and contains at least 1 number.

    Another person does the same on their computer choosing the opposite "Host" or "Join" and enters the same access code and clicks the "Connect" button. The "Connect" button on the "Host" side and the "Join" side must be clicked within 2 minutes of each other. The access code will work with or without the spaces. The access code and all information is encrypted with 128 bit encryption before leaving each client machine then decrypted when it gets to the other client machine. At no time is your data available to our server or anyone else. Each client contacts our Crossloop Server and the server "Introduces" a "Host" computer to a "Join" computer with matching access codes. The Crossloop "Host" client will be asked if the want to "Allow" or "Deny" control to the "Join" computer. The user on the "Host" end should click on the "Allow" button.

    Once that is done the connection becomes "Peer to Peer" and all information between the two client computers goes directly from one to the other without going through our server. A VNCViewer is launched on the "Join" end and the "Host" computer's desktop is shown in the viewer and the user at the "Join" end can control the keyboard and mouse of the "Host" computer. Any function that can be performed using the keyboard and mouse of the "Host" can also be performed in the VNCViewer with the keyboard and mouse of the "Join" computer.

    Some Firewall/security software will block files that access the internet so you will need to configure your Security software to "Allow" CrossloopConnect.exe, Winvnc.exe and Vncviewer.exe to run and access the internet for Crossloop to function properly.

    Crossloop installs and uses TightVNC which will conflict with any other VNC program if it's installed on the same computer. All VNC programs use the same Registry Key so settings will be overwritten. You might need to uninstall your other VNC program, if you have one installed, and Crossloop so you can start fresh with Crossloop.

    If you have followed the proper steps and are still having problems please contact me with detailed information about what is happening so I can help you resolve the problem. I'm sorry if some of this is redundant to you.
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    Re: CrossLoop

    Hey Big Al,
    Sorry for not responding earlier but I have been a little busy and it appears that you are doing well with your one way conversation <img src=/S/chatter.gif border=0 alt=chatter width=38 height=16> you have even answered your own question. <img src=/S/bananas.gif border=0 alt=bananas width=33 height=35>
    I've only been using CrossLoop for about a month to support family members & haven't had any concerns or conflicts with firewall/security software. Running XP-sp2 on 4 systems using Avast On-Access Protection, with Network & P2P shield, one other PC with Norton.
    Response time is a bit slow but hey for a free-bee, no problem.

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