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    Hard drive crash

    Hi folks, welcome back I missed you.
    I recently bought a new PC. I set the hard drive from my old PC into an external enclosure and used it for backup. This worked for about 6 months but crashed the other day.
    I booted an old PC just to make sure that it worked (it did).
    I took the crashed drive and placed it into the old PC and set it up as slave.
    PC will not boot. Also cannot enter safe mode. I get a bsd saying that Partmgr is corrupt.
    Setup can see the slave.
    I tried to boot off old (millennium) emergency floppy (used this many times to boot un-bootable PCs), Nothing.
    I tried to boot off Win 2k CD, nothing.
    With slave drive removed PC is fine.
    I would like to retrieve jpegs off of this HD. I have the jpegs on a CD (somewhere but canít locate).
    I replaced the crashed drive with a new drive in the enclosure and the new drive (and the enclosure) works fine
    Am I wasting my time here?

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    Re: Hard drive crash

    in the BIOS of the old PC is the floppy before the HD in the boot order? If you can't get the old PC to boot into DOS you are probably out of luck.

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    Re: Hard drive crash

    Hi Joe,
    Yes, both floppy and CD are set to boot before the HD. Only way it will boot into anything is if the crashed HD is removed. HD is spinning and the bios recognizes it. It even has an OS on it (Win 2k) being that it was the C: drive from the old PC. I tried booting from it but no joy. I even tried to restore it by setting it as master and booting with the Win2k installation disk. no dice either.

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    Re: Hard drive crash

    When you say it "crashed" while in the external enclosure, what exactly did it do or not do ?? Could the system see it ?? Did you try connecting the enclosure to the other computer before you connected it as a slave ??

    Usually, if an old HD is going to be used as a slave for backups or as an external drive it's best to format the drive before using it for that purpose. The OS on the drive could be the problem.
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    Re: Hard drive crash

    Hi Doc,
    When I turned the enclosure on the PC froze. I tried connecting it to the old PC but that froze also. It seems that whatever the old HD is connected to stops working. I think I will just disassemble the old drive and destroy the disk.

    Thanks to all who replied, but I think this is a lost cause.

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    Re: Hard drive crash

    Hi Ed,

    If you've got an MS-DOS boot dikette with FDISK on it, try booting a bare-bones MS-DOS sessions from that, then using FDISK to attack the defective HD. You might need nothing more than FDISK /MBR to recover the drive. Of course, if your copy of FDISK doesn't support HDs of whatever size you're working on, you might still lose everything on it. Still, it's worth a try...
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    Re: Hard drive crash

    Thanks for the reply macropod. I tried that also but if the offending HD is attached at all, nothing runs. It's like having a bad connection on the motherboard (which I also checked).
    Besides, bigger problems, the HD in the new Dell has done the same thing (is there a connection?). Good thing I bought a new HD for the enclosure and backed everything up. This has not been a good week for PCs at my house.
    Tried a restore, restore won't run. Tried last known good configuration, no go. Tried a repair install of XP, no luck.
    Again, thanks for the suggestions and welcome back.
    I'll be on the phone to India when I get home today,

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    Re: Hard drive crash

    Thanks for all the suggestions folks. Everything is back on line. Close this post please.

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    Re: Hard drive crash

    What was the solution?

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    Re: Hard drive crash

    Sorry folks, my mind is being pulled in several directions, I didn't mean to be rude.
    The solution was to uninstall Zone Alarm. The problem is with the new Z/A update, it caused a problem in a process called VSMON.exe. It apparently tries to take over the computer at startup and just balls everything up causing XP to freeze.
    Pity, I always liked Z/A but am now using Windows firewall until I can find a better utility.

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    Re: Hard drive crash

    Thanks for the reply. However, ZA could not stop you from booting with a DOS diskette or an XP CD as long as they are ahead of the hard drive in the BIOS boot sequence. Are you sure you are replying to the correct post here?

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    Re: Hard drive crash

    Hi Joe,
    Solution for the enclosure drive was disassembly and destruction. Few days later the C: drive froze on bootup. I thought it was too much of a coincidence, but that's what it was. It was the VSMON problem.
    Booted into safe mode and backed everything up to a new enclosure drive. All's well here. Thanks for the reply.

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    Re: Hard drive crash

    OK. I understand now. Some PCs have been known to take issue with ZA updates. There are many threads in the ZA support forums about VSMON problems with almost every release. Anyway, thanks for posting back. Glad you are back in business.

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