Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 22
  1. #1
    2 Star Lounger
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Glen Innes, New South Wales, Australia
    Posts
    190
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Help I've be got -Spamware

    Please assist I have encountered a covert operation and being a novice, I need help! My system is running Vista HP and Office 2007 Pro I keep getting returned email(i use outlook 07) which I never sent but the body of the email says I did (is this bounce)from what I would call a spammer I checked out the Bott/Leonard book for office 07 and while chapter 12 was enlightening, it has ownly led to more questions! The last section on tracking a source of SPAM was great and in some cases I can see the sender via the received category in others that information is coverted (to me) by no received category but a series of in some cases numbers (ISPs) or ****.****.**** never ending or so it seems none of these use the "@". I have available a number of security products which have been helpful some more then others. I am willing to try anything so please ask all the questions you like and I will endeavour to respond. However, while I found the Bott / Leonard book enlightening I am at a lose as to where to go from here. At one point I formatted the drive but ultimately this achived nothing.

    Thanks
    <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15> <img src=/S/flags/Australia.gif border=0 alt=Australia width=30 height=18>

  2. #2
    Plutonium Lounger
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Posts
    84,353
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 29 Times in 29 Posts

    Re: Help I've be got -Spamware

    This has happened to me too, and to several others in The Lounge. If your computer is protected by a firewall (in particular one that also monitors outgoing traffic), anti-virus software and anti-spyware software, and if you have kept them up-to-date, the most probable explanation is that a spammer has somehow gotten hold of your e-mail address (not so hard usually). The spammer now sends out spam messages with your e-mail address as the sender, in the hope that the recipient will trust the e-mail and open it.

    When it happened to me, it was clear that the mails didn't really originate from me - they had often been sent at a moment when my computer wasn't on.

    Since the real sender is hard to trace, and since it might well be someone in a country that doesn't have stringent laws against spamming, there isn't much you can do about it.

    Still, it doesn't hurt to make sure that all your security software is up-to-date and that you run scans regularly.

  3. #3
    2 Star Lounger
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Glen Innes, New South Wales, Australia
    Posts
    190
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Help I've be got -Spamware

    I have a firewall currently using ** ***** ******** **** but I have used others while there are all good - it is hard to be over the moon with any when this happens. I guess what I am looking for is some direction (read help) as to how to rid my system from this #4!`. I refer back to the Bott/Leoard book while it gave me information that is useful how does info help me the novice convert this to a secure crap free email system. Hopefully, that should create a helpful commentry and yes all my security is up to date.My appreciate your input but I guess like everyone I looking to just surf as i please without interferring with outside users and hopefully getting the same in return. I sent this to my IP proveider also and like a lot of other hints / tips they suggested i might like to change my email ---- what a cop out, I pay them they should protect me - - the client (read sap).

    Thanks
    <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15> <img src=/S/flags/Australia.gif border=0 alt=Australia width=30 height=18>

  4. #4
    Plutonium Lounger
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    Lexington, Kentucky, USA
    Posts
    12,107
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Re: Help I've be got -Spamware

    Sorry to burst your bubble of hope, Glen, but I agree with what Hans AND your ISP have told you and they are not copping out. There is little to nothing that an ISP can do to "protect" you once your email address gets picked up in the wild. They and you can, as Hans has said, run security software like firewalls, spam filters and adware blockers and cleaners, but it's nigh impossible to get it all. Look at it in a manner similar to postal mail. Your postal service can't protect you from all the junk mail (adverts, scams and solicitations) once people learn your postal address. They might try, but...

    Back to your question about suggestions. If you read through this very forum, you'll find MANY names of firewalls, adware protection software and antivirus protection that Loungers like and have been satisfied with. In addition, the following three <big>StarPosts</big> are worthy of your review: <post:=407,306>post 407,306</post:>, <post:=385,669>post 385,669</post:> and <post:=296,439>post 296,439</post:>.

  5. #5
    2 Star Lounger
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Glen Innes, New South Wales, Australia
    Posts
    190
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Help I've be got -Spamware

    Looks like I in for an education with a fair bit of reading thrown in - i thank you and all the contributors for your help on this and many other posts. I wonder if we the users are just settling for the path of least resistance against the parasite rather then throwing this back a them. For if it that easy for them to catch us why then is it so hard for us to catch them (or is it) or are we just allowing someone to profit from our ineptness.
    <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15> <img src=/S/flags/Australia.gif border=0 alt=Australia width=30 height=18>

  6. #6
    Plutonium Lounger
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Posts
    84,353
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 29 Times in 29 Posts

    Re: Help I've be got -Spamware

    Spamming is big business nowadays, and it's run by organized crime. They spend a lot of time and money on perfecting ways to mislead computer users and to hide their tracks.

    The only way to be entirely safe is to disconnect your computer from the internet. <img src=/S/blackteeth.gif border=0 alt=blackteeth width=20 height=20>

  7. #7
    Uranium Lounger
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    6,684
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts

    Re: Help I've be got -Spamware

    Try checking you email online at your ISPs site for a few days and see if you can catch the messages there. If there is an underlying From address in the message, perhaps you can block the sender there.

    Another option might be to setup a sub-account in your email and let all your trusted senders use that and remove the offending mail account from your recieved email accounts for a month or so and then try reactivating it and see if that gets rid of them. Usually, if you ignore these creeps long enough, they just disappear into cyber space and harrass someone else. HTH
    <IMG SRC=http://www.wopr.com/w3tuserpics/DocWatson_sig.gif>

  8. #8
    Super Moderator
    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Location
    Renton, Washington, USA
    Posts
    12,560
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts

    Re: Help I've be got -Spamware

    Another source of harvesting addresses is from your friends. All those addresses listed in the different "Forwarded" emails are money to some one. <img src=/S/sorry.gif border=0 alt=sorry width=15 height=15>

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

  9. #9
    Uranium Lounger
    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Location
    Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
    Posts
    9,508
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts

    Re: Help I've be got -Spamware

    Not exactly on topic, but I ran across this quote from G. Gordon Liddy: "Crime does pay, or we wouldn't have so much of it." <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>
    -John ... I float in liquid gardens
    UTC -7ąDS

  10. #10
    Plutonium Lounger
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Posts
    84,353
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 29 Times in 29 Posts

    Re: Help I've be got -Spamware

    I'm afraid that's very true... <img src=/S/sad.gif border=0 alt=sad width=15 height=15>

  11. #11
    2 Star Lounger
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Glen Innes, New South Wales, Australia
    Posts
    190
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Help I've be got -Spamware

    Another question in self help mode in the Bott/Leonard book it tells you how to find wher there coming (received) from but unless I missed the point how do you stop these addresses from getting into your email as returned to you (when you did not send them). In some cases it shows a email address and in other a port address like 207.125.169.127 and sometimes both and in other cases nothing that I can see would be usable. But two things are constant it appears that a lot originate out of yahoo and the most from j87hui@hotmail.com with some sort of phony business proposition.
    <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15> <img src=/S/flags/Australia.gif border=0 alt=Australia width=30 height=18>

  12. #12
    Super Moderator jscher2000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    Silicon Valley, USA
    Posts
    23,112
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 93 Times in 89 Posts

    Re: Help I've be got -Spamware

    If you suspect that messages might be exiting your computer, which can happen if you have a bot infection, you can temporarily block outbound email. Most mail programs send to port 25, the standard port for SMTP connections for mail servers. In your firewall software, or in your router/DSL modem's firewall interface, close Port 25/SMTP outbound; you also might as well close it inbound, as you are not operating a mail server on your end. Of course, to send email again you would need to re-open the port (outbound) but you can do this during idle times to make sure your computer isn't sending while you are away.

  13. #13
    Super Moderator jscher2000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Location
    Silicon Valley, USA
    Posts
    23,112
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 93 Times in 89 Posts

    Re: Help I've be got -Spamware

    If undeliverable mail is labeled as having been sent by you, then the notifications will come to you. I'm not aware of any way to block that, but if you run Outlook or Outlook Express, you could write a rule to sort it into a folder -- like the Deleted Items folder. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

    This is so common that it is now a way that viruses and trojans are distributed, because people assume that the returned message either was spam or was their own message. Never open any attachments to notifications of undeliverable messages (except plain text attachments, in Notepad, which cannot execute code).

  14. #14
    Plutonium Lounger
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Posts
    84,353
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 29 Times in 29 Posts

    Re: Help I've be got -Spamware

    I don't have Outlook 2007 so I can't help here. I hope that someone else will reply.

  15. #15
    2 Star Lounger
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Glen Innes, New South Wales, Australia
    Posts
    190
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Re: Help I've be got -Spamware

    This is seems a little technical, but i did look at outlook 07 and yes it does use port 25 and has 4 options for sending message encripted from none to ?? but no option is selected. So please point this novice to a step by step process to follow if available. I have not checked my router setting as yet!

    Thanks
    <img src=/S/thankyou.gif border=0 alt=thankyou width=40 height=15> <img src=/S/flags/Australia.gif border=0 alt=Australia width=30 height=18>

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •