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    Is this a 'good' buy?

    I'm buying this with no real knowledge of Vista's intricacies, just a few customized options. I'll be removing all of Dell's preloaded trial software and removing unnecessary startup items.

    Inspiron 1521;AMD TurionTM 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-60 (1MB/2.0GHz)
    Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista® Home Basic Edition
    Camera: No Webcam Option
    System Color: Jet Black
    LCD Panel: Glossy, widescreen 15.4 inch display (1280x800)
    Memory: 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 667MHz
    Video Card: ATI RADEON® Xpress1270 HyperMemoryTM
    Hard Drive: 80GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
    CD ROM/DVD ROM: CD writer / DVD player (Combo Drive)
    Battery Options: 56Whr Lithium Ion Battery (6 cell)
    Sound: High Definition Audio 2.0
    Wireless: Dell Wireless 1390 802.11g Mini-Card
    Dial-Up Internet Access: 6 Months of America Online Membership Included
    Office Productivity Software (Pre-Installed): No Productivity software pre-installed
    Anti-Virus/Security Suite (Pre-installed): PC-Cillin Internet Security 30-day trial
    TBU: Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 8.1
    Network Card: Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem
    Limited Warranty, Services and Support Options: 1Yr Ltd Warranty and Mail-In Service
    Datasafe: DataSafe included with DellCare Service bundle
    $800.94
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    Re: Is this a 'good' buy?

    Seems like a good price. But you want at least Vista Home Premium unless for work then Vista Business. Vista Basic should not be allowed on anything.

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    Re: Is this a 'good' buy?

    Jeremy,

    I agree with Joe regarding Vista Home Basic. Get premium or even XP.

    I would opt for the larger screen upgrade to at least 19".

    Opt out of any AOL trial membership.

    Remove all or any of the free trial software that they include.

    Outside of that, you can build up reasonably well.

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    Re: Is this a 'good' buy?

    Bob,

    This is a notebook. A 19" screen is not even available and even if it were would drive the price sky high.

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    Re: Is this a 'good' buy?

    Sorry.
    Thought it was a desktop. <img src=/S/yikes.gif border=0 alt=yikes width=15 height=15>
    Delete the reference to the screen size.
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    Re: Is this a 'good' buy?

    What ever you do, do NOT get the Home Basic, as your hands will be tied. Get at least Home Premium or better.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Is this a 'good' buy?

    Has anyone told you not to get Home Basic yet ??? Well..... don't get Home Basic. <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Is this a 'good' buy?

    Do you think trying to buy XP (since it's not an OEM option on the site) and installing it on my own is worth it? Can you foresee any driver related issues or otherwise?
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    Re: Is this a 'good' buy?

    Um.... Don't get Windows?

    Linux works very well <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>. Sorry... had to jump on this one <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>.
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    Re: Is this a 'good' buy?

    A lot of the OEM's are NOT providing XP drivers for their Vista machine components. There is also the possibility that you will not be able to reinstall the OEM version of Vista as the "System Recover" has been deleted.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Is this a 'good' buy?

    No. I think Vista is a terrific OS. I've got it (Vista Ultimate) at home on a one year old Dell XPS 410 and have had no problems. It runs very well. Have relegated the old XP Pro machine to my grandsons and their playing. I hardly ever look at that machine and don't miss it. I wish I had the time to get it going on my work PC.

    In general, driver issues have pretty much disappeared. There are still a few application compatibility issues around but those are being eradicated too. The best thing to do is check vendor sites for hardware and software compatibility. Going forward everything good in software and hardware is going to oriented towards Vista not XP.

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    Go with XP

    Dell offers XP in the small business line. It's a mature OS that will give you fewer problems than Vista, requires less memory and isn't hobble by Digital Restrictions Management.

    If you're not planning on using this on airplanes, go with the 17" wide-screen Dell model. It's larger for traveling, but are you getting a computer for travel or for work?

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    Re: Go with XP

    Better read up on Vista and not just parrot other posts. There have been many driver and application updates since the consumer release in February. That is not to say he can't have a problem just that the vast majority of hardware and application software is now compatible with Vista. With the correct hardware (i.e. with a Vista logo), he'll be just fine. Vista is not hobbled by DRM. See The FUD over Vista DRM just won't die | Ed Bott’s Windows Expertise | and » Busting the FUD about Vista’s DRM | Ed Bott’s Microsoft Report | ZDNet.com.

    And so what if XP needs less memory. Have you checked the price of 2GB RAM recently?

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    Re: Go with XP

    <hr>Have you checked the price of 2GB RAM recently?<hr>
    Yes, I've just spent £80-ish for 2 GB of ECC memory from Crucial for our Windows 2003 Server!
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    Re: Go with XP

    ECC memory is always more expensive. On our Win2k3 server a 2GB upgrade would be ~ $150 USD. For my home desktop, a 2GB ranges from $58 USD to $130 USD depending on the memory speed. My point, which I did not explain, was that most systems from the major OEMS now come with 1GB. So, an upgrade to 2GB (IMO, the minimum for Vista) is pretty inexpensive.

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