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    Amaya or Opera

    Anyone used Amaya or Opera? Is either one a capable web browser?

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    Re: Amaya or Opera

    Everyone I know who's tested Opera raves about it. Fast, clean, perfect.
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    Re: Amaya or Opera

    I'm a registered Opera 4 user and occasionally it falters on some java, shockwave and flash, etc., implementations. (Perhaps I'm not installed correctly, but I think I am.) For example it doesn't show everything on Bolle's (overdesigned) website, and I've had other problems. Otherwise, faster than a speeding bullet, more streamlined than a starving weasel, support facilities appear excellent but I haven't tested them.
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    Re: Amaya or Opera

    I have Opera 4 upgraded to Opera 5. After learning the user interface, I find I enjoy Opera quite a bit. As with any browser including my IE 5.1, there are quirks. Opera's worst quirk happens when I try to log out of Yahoo mail. Opera stalls so I close the browser and re-open it with no problem. Anymore, I just let time expire in Yahoo mail and go on to anything else. I use both browsers about equally and have different favorites folder in each one. Helps me stay organized. I have opened IE and Opera at the same time with no problems.

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    Re: Amaya or Opera

    I am a registered 5.01 Opera user. I alternate between IE5.5 and Opera with no problems whatsoever. I am very pleased and would highly recommend Opera. One thing, it doesn't support Active-X technology, which many web sites use.

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    Re: Amaya or Opera

    I've been an Opera user since 3.61; it's now at Version 5.01. Since I dispise anything MI$[img]/w3timages/icons/sick.gif[/img], but have to use them anyway, it's a delight to have a non-IE browser. Opera is fast, small and continually improving. When it chokes on a page, it's generally the fault of the page.

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    Re: Amaya or Opera

    Just started using Opera 5.1 (free version).

    Good Points: It is a great Browser. Fast as advertised, and as well as anyone other than the designer can tell, handles the page rendering accurately. I prefer its version of MDI over IE and NS (especially with the tabs for switching windows.)

    Bad Points: It seems to have problems posting in this Lounge. I have only been able to post successfully once. Either I get a page with SQL code, or I get an HTML page telling me I can't post without a subject (even though there is a subject). It doesn't seem to handle dowonloads that are based on ASP redirects. It wants to download the ASP itself rather than the file the ASP is pointed at. Also, it refuses to recognize your default mailto client. I use NS Messenger. IE and MAPI enable apps recognize it fine, but Opera insistes on using its own POP3 (no IMAP) client.

    Pricing Irony: I originally downloaded Opera to use it on my under powered (i486-66, 80MB RAM, 1.6 GB HD) Linux machine. The linux version is crippled and lacks lots of features present in the Windows version, but the Windows version is free, and the Linux version still costs $40 US. Go figure.

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    Re: Amaya or Opera

    I began using Opera, in addition to IE 5.5 and NN 4.73, in appreciation for Hakon Lie (President of Opera) having invented Cascading Style Sheets. It's a good browser, but doesn't offer any special features, except perhaps, a small footprint. I haven't done a feature by feature comparison, but I'd guess Netscape 6 meets more W3C recommendations than does Opera.

    My guess is dedicated web browsers will become less relevant in the future, as applications become more web-enabled. And hopefully, religious fevor about browsers (and operating systems, platforms, and so on), will also become less relevant.

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    Re: Amaya or Opera

    I registered version 3.something after about a week of use and it's been my primary browser ever since. I get really aggravated when some glitchy web page that I need to see sends me back to one of the big (so big and so so slow) two.

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    Re: Amaya or Opera

    Since no one has commented on Amaya, I guess I will. I tried Amaya because it sounds exactly like how people MISprounce my name. (No kidding. It's pronounced "ee-mah-ee," but everyone says "amaya.") Anyway, I tried Amaya 4.3.2 briefly when it was released last March.

    Amaya is the free, official browser of the World Wide Web Consortium, the group that is developing the official standards for XML of which HTML is a subset.

    Amaya is designed to adhere strictly to XML standards, which strives for web interactivity with low computing overhead. So, Amaya has potential as a development environment for applications aimed at portable devices.

    The difference, and probably the scariest thing about Amaya is that it is not just a browser, but an integrated editor, designed for collaborative work on documents. For this reason, it probably is not appropriate for consumer use, such as the family PC, but rather more useful for corporate environments, and for XML programmers targeting portable devices.

    Amaya is for the independent-minded, and the adventurous, and developers for the growing market for portables. It's free, at www.w3.org.

    Roger "Amaya"

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    Re: Amaya or Opera

    "When it chokes on a page, it's generally the fault of the page."

    I don't use Opera but a co-worker does. Opera follows the w3c specs to a t. That's both its blessing and its curse. Far too many web pages cater to IE since it's the most popular. The page might work and look good in IE, but it doesn't follow the W3c spec so Opera will choke on it.

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    Re: Amaya or Opera

    Opera 5.12 - chokes all the time. Not it's fault maybe, but severly limits usefulness. chokes on hotmail, chokes on this lounge, chokes on MS knowledge base.

    Can be very fast, but also, over my slow connection, has a habit of just hanging on a slowly loading page and not recovering.

    Download manager also managed to stuff up a lot of files - abotu 10% in a recent extensive pdf download, compared to none for getright. I know getright's a dedicated download manager, but the point is you REALLY need it for IE, which frequently hashes up downloads, and I hoped Opera would do away with it.

    The way Opera saves web pages is also not as useful as IE, particularly if you subsequently want to move those files around.

    Tried 5.12, may keep it as a second browser, but doesn't free me from IE, unfortunately.

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