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    RAS Phonebook

    I was working in the registry and came across an entry for the RAS Phonebook. Did a Google search and it seems to be connected to Dial-Up Networking, which I do not use. Can I delete the subject phone book without creating Windows problems.
    Please do not ask why I want it removed, I like to remove things/files that do not apply to my Windows XP setup or my programs
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    Re: RAS Phonebook

    Jezza, I received an email notification that you had sent me a reply. I clicked on the link and am told that your message could not be found.
    Please resend or tell me how to post a reply to you without using the link.
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    Re: RAS Phonebook

    Gloria

    How does your PC connect to the internet, modem?

    I think this is a really dangerous thing you are doing here and I STRONGLY advise you not to do it. I know you generally bypass my advice but this is not a good idea.
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    Re: RAS Phonebook

    Jezza - When I read the email from the lounge you said that you would delete it. Have you changed your mind, if so why?
    I still don't see your original reply, but I did read the email notification.
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    Re: RAS Phonebook

    Gloria

    In my original message to you there was a heavy amount of sarcasm in it, something that does not cross the Atlantic very well. I decided to delete it so that we wouldn't get this misunderstanding. As you appear to carry on the discussion here about a message nobody knows what is going on. The general idea was

    "If you want to keep connection with the internet don't delete this file"
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    Re: RAS Phonebook

    I would say that it is part of the basic IE installation. If you delete it, apart from the risk of potential problems, it is likely to be reinstalled automatically at some point in the future.

    I simply cannot see the point of carrying out such a pointless excercise - if you can't give a reasonable reason for removing it, don't do it!

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    Re: RAS Phonebook

    Gloria, I hate to join the "philosopher" bandwagon but I can't resist! If a computer user, whether Windows, Linux or even DOS, looks at all the files stored on the hard drive, there are literally THOUSANDS of files that you and I have no idea what they are or what purpose they serve. But, in MOST cases, a professional programmer created those files for a purpose and you and I are well served to leave them alone and ignore them. Whether we're messing around in the registry (usually reserved for high-level technicians) or browsing around in Windows Explorer, just because you "see" a file and THINK you don't use it, it is probably a mistake to think you should dump it.

    All too often, those of us who are helping someone with a computer woe will discover, deep into the process, that the user has done something like that and way, way later, the computer starts acting flaky and said user has no idea that the problem may have been caused by a spur of the moment file deletion or change of a setting.

    OK, I'll get off the soapbox. For a year and a half, I've had this computer with an 80 gig drive and I mess around with new software and other stuff every day. My 80 gig drive is STILL half empty BUT I have added a second 250 gig drive for the eventual day when I really do need more storage space. If you EVER want to look around for "housekeeping" stuff you can do, focus your attention on files YOU create, not those created by a knowledgeable system programmer.

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    Re: RAS Phonebook

    The article I found on Google seem to point to the phone book as a dial-up tool, which I don't need nor use.

    I connect to the Internet using Comcast High Speed Internet Service. Would that be considered a network connection? But I WILL take your advice and leave it as it is.

    Thanks Jerry for your help.
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    Re: RAS Phonebook

    No problems Gloria, sorry for the confusion.

    There are stories of the RAS being used as a "back door" to hack into a networked PC but that appears to have been closed now, as long as you are service packed and your AV and Firewall software applications are up to date. There is no real reason to delete this, it is doing no harm.
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    Re: RAS Phonebook

    Then I assume that my reason for wanting to remove is (in your opinion) unreasonable. Well! I guess you're right after I think about it. Just wanting to remove it because it's there is not reasonable. After the votes are counted, the consensus of opinion is to leave it be, which I will do.
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    Re: RAS Phonebook

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by Jezza on 12-Jan-08 21:15. To correct bad grammar)</P>Yes, this application is used by other programs including the likes of TelNet and Remote Desktop Connection. You may not use these personally for your work or leisure but you must be aware that other applications are created and designed by utilising the Windows OS features and by deleting/renaming/moving files because they are not apparently not used is not advisable. You can use the analogy of taking the spare tyre out of your car. It is absolutely useless until one of your main tyres goes flat, so it is not advisable to remove it as by doing it may make the car not fit for purpose in the future.
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    Re: RAS Phonebook

    I accept the reprimand, but bail out when you mentioned "knowledgeable system programmer." I'm sure you will agree that not ALL programmers deserve to be programmers. Just like ALL help desk employees deserve to be directing users, I've had some tell me to do things that I (even with my limited knowledge knew to be incorrect).
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    Re: RAS Phonebook

    For your information, I have, today, purchased Zone Alarm Pro. and it is up-to- date.

    Believe me, Jerry, I will not touch anything if I'm not sure it's doing harm to my computer.
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    Re: RAS Phonebook

    Careful Duchess, now you'll have people like me jumping on you for using a software firewall (In all actuality, probably not - I am definitely among the minority when it comes to this issue, but I don't use software firewalls and I think they're more problematic for the average person than they're worth).

    I really wanted to share a real-world anecdote with you. Many moons ago, I was called upon to help someone whose Windows 3.1 computer would not work. Windows would simply not run. In the course of troubleshooting, I found that the user (Melanie shall remain unnamed) had organized all of the DLL files into a DLL folder, all of the EXEs into an EXE folder... and so on. It made sense to her. The point I am trying to make here is that it was beyond her understanding, and what seemed like a simple thing resulted in a nightmare. I would guess that to this day she just leaves things alone instead of even thinking about fixing or removing them.

    Not trying to discourage you, because I learned by breaking things and having to fix them - experimenting is great - but do it in a safe way, on a second machine or with a complete backup/image of the one you monkey with. In this way, no matter what you do, you will not be stuck with a flaky computer afterwards. And if you REALLY munge something up, you've got a working backup.
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