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    boot partition size (Win XP)

    I have promised myself that the next time I install Windows it will be to a separate partition.
    The laptop has 100GB.
    I figure on putting three folders on the boot partition
    <table><td>C:Program Files takes</td><td>1.23 GB</td></tr><td>C:Windows</td><td>1.61 GB</td></tr><td>Cocuments and Settings</td><td>0.76 GB</td></tr><td>TOTAL</td><td>3.60 GB</td></tr></table>

    I might place a few common batch files there too, insignificant in volume.
    My first guess at a reasonable partition size is to double my current (bloated) use to, say, 8.00 GB.
    But I'd certainly appreciate feedback on this.

    My purpose is to be able to blow away an installation without touching my data files. From time to time I like to reformat/scrub clean my boot drive.

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    Re: boot partition size (Win XP)

    For various reasons, the "reasonable" size of boot partition for Windows XP ( C: drive) is 20 GB minimum. I would recommend to set boot partition at 30 GB.
    You can maintain 20 GB partition if you move your Documents folder to another partition and perform cleaning regularly; maintaining 10 GB partition will require daily cleaning (deleting temp files, restore points, upgrade backups, flushing caches, etc).

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    For the real size of your Windows installation, open My Computer (or Windows Explorer), right-click an icon representing the C: drive and from pop-up menu select Properties.

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    Re: boot partition size (Win XP)

    What do you expect to gain in doing this?

    All of the reasons to do this on a 98 or before machine has gone away <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15>

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: boot partition size (Win XP)

    > move your Documents folder to another partition
    I tend not to store anything in "Cocuments and SettingsChrisL.LAPMy Documents".
    "Cocuments and SettingsChrisL.LAP" has only 70MB as we speak, and that's without housekeeping.
    I'm puzzled at 20GB as a minimum, when right now I'm using only 3.6GB.
    Is the pagefile.sys file included in your figures? My pagefile.sys is currently at 4GB, so I guess I should have included that so that 3.6+4=7.6GB, say 8GB.

    My working files are all held in a 6GB TrueCrypt file.

    >from pop-up menu select Properties.
    Thanks. That's how I got my sizes this morning, by r/c on the three folders.

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    Re: boot partition size (Win XP)

    >What do you expect to gain in doing this?

    I figured that it would be exceedingly easy to install a fresh copy of Windows by formatting the boot partition C (of 8GB or 20GB) while leaving the second partition D (92GB or 80GB) intact.
    Currently if i want to reformat the drive prior to installing WinXP, I drag all other folders to a spare IDE drive, and of course, drag them back afterwards.

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    Re: boot partition size (Win XP)

    If you store everything in a USER controlled ROOT folder, all one needs to do is DRAG that folder to the "spare IDE drive", rebuild machine and drag back that same folder.

    Still NO need in repartitioning the 80 GIG drive.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: boot partition size (Win XP)

    > DRAG that folder to the "spare IDE drive", rebuild machine and drag back that same folder.
    Which is, of course, what I do with my 6GB TrueCrypt "GREAVES" file.

    >Still NO need in repartitioning the 80 GIG drive.
    OK, you (all) have talked me out of it.

    But why, then, did we used to do it?

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    Re: boot partition size (Win XP)

    Chris
    I have C: at 7 GB for about 6 months now. A problem occured when I inadvertantly installed another problem on C:. This created a defrag condition of insufficient space. On a do over, I would set it at 10 or 12 GB.

    I see you have been talked out of it. If you go ahead with the scheme, I would be interested in your other partition sizes/ratios.
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    Re: boot partition size (Win XP)

    >A problem occurred when I inadvertently installed another problem on C:.
    I can imagine(grin)
    My C: is a tad overloaded with garbage in C:windows and C:Program Files.
    That was my reasoning behind "3.6GB - then double it". I figured that I had no right installing Program Files that were anywhere close to the space required for Windows.

    7GB would work for me. When I redo (in about a week's time, I hope), I'll be monitoring space closely and will post back here if anything changes.
    I have no other partitions - all three machines currently set C: as the entire boot drive.

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    Re: boot partition size (Win XP)

    Also remember that when you install a "Windows compliant" program, files are written to the OS drive even when the install is to another drive. The swap files are there, most temp files, and the "System Restore" files will be there. These will all eat up most any small partition.

    We used smaller partitions to reduce the "Minimum file size" that were within the older OS's. The older OS's could NOT handle "Large" partitions.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: boot partition size (Win XP)

    Chris.

    I meant to say I installed another PROGRAM. But, it was a problem none the less. Good luck.

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    Re: boot partition size (Win XP)

    >The older OS's could NOT handle "Large" partitions.
    Ah. Now I remember. Weird settings in the BIOS for IDE drives.

    >files are written to the OS drive even when the install is to another drive.
    Right, but I (had) plan(ned) to keep C:Program Files in the right place. Doubling my current use would make space for future grossware.

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    Re: boot partition size (Win XP)

    Also files get written to the Windows folder. Have a GOOD look at your listings in the Windows folder, they can go real deep.

    True, on my desktop, I have my hard drive partitioned, but that was BEFORE I figured out that I did NOT need it. I do not use much of the partitions any more, since I added a second (300 GIG) hard drive (with no partitions) and save 90% of my data there. And I have Office installed on a second partition and have NOT taken the time to uninstall it and then reinstall in on the C drive.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: boot partition size (Win XP)

    I guess my question would be... why are you trying to cut it so close on the C: drive? Disk space is cheap. I use an unpartitioned 60GB drive (good luck finding one of those anymore) in my home PC, along with a second 250GB drive. Attached via USB2 is an external 250GB drive, which gets a mirror copy of my data from the internal 250GB drive. These days, most things go to the external because I carry it with me to work and other places, so my "stuff" is always readily available. I use Microsoft's SyncToy to make sure each drive has a copy of the data... creating an external, removable backup.

    If I had a 200+ GB hard drive for boot, I would set aside 50GB for Windows and Program Files, and simply save my data on the secondary drive or the external. In this manner, I never really have to worry about the boot drive filling up.
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    Re: boot partition size (Win XP)

    >I do not use much of the partitions any more, since I added a second (300 GIG) hard drive
    Right, and if I put a second drive, 300GB at that, I'd probably assign the boot drive to be a boot, and add program Files, and let nature take its course. A re-install would be a clean reformat and install. My data files would by default be implicitly installed an 'another partition", to wit, the sole partition of the second drive.
    I could use a network drive as a drive for data files, but then I'd be lugging that around with my laptop.

    I think I will adopt the earlier suggestion of dragging my true data away before reinstalling, dragging it back.
    It goes without saying (which always makes me wonder why we immediately disqualify that statement!) that daily backups are a part of my life ...

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