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    Retail Vs. OEM (Vista Ultimate)

    Hi All, any info on the OEM versions? Can I should I buy the OEM system. Thanks in advance!
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    Re: Retail Vs. OEM (Vista Ultimate)

    You can not legally buy an OEM version separate from a PC unless you are certified system builder.

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    Re: Retail Vs. OEM (Vista Ultimate)

    Thanks Joe, I thought so! I wonder how they get away with selling to anyone who wants to purchase an OEM product?
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    Re: Retail Vs. OEM (Vista Ultimate)

    Just some comments; people usually get an OEM version of an OS together with the PC they just bought. For along time, and still one can find it mentioned that a requirement is you have to purchase a piece of hardware (which many times came to be a ludicrously cheap cable etc.).

    But, Microsoft changed their licensing some years ago (2005), that is, the rules for its System Builder OEM program.

    Ed Bott has mentioned it some times. If I quote from his quote from the OEM agreement (since I don't have a direct source):

    "OEM system builder software packs are intended for PC and server manufacturers or assemblers ONLY. They are not intended for distribution to end users. Unless the end user is actually assembling his/her own PC, in which case, that end user is considered a system builder as well."

    So, in my interpretation, if you are building (or refurbishing) a PC you are allowed to buy an OEM license (single copy). Then it's a different story to find someone selling in a correct way; unopened/not part of a 5/10/50-pack.

    A welcome change in Microsoft licensing terms (Aug 30, 2005)

    One more time: yes, you can legally buy an OEM copy of Windows (Dec 20, 2007)

    Then, of course, one should be aware about the difference in support from MSFT between retail and OEM copies (no support for the OEM license).

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    Re: Retail Vs. OEM (Vista Ultimate)

    Thanks for the Ed Bott link. That clears up a lot.

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    Re: Retail Vs. OEM (Vista Ultimate)

    Yes. And among other limitations I should have mentioned (I know you know this Joe but just adding it to the other things I wrote): an OEM license is bound to the system on which it was originally installed. It can not be transferred.

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    Re: Retail Vs. OEM (Vista Ultimate)

    But if you can live with the support & system binding restrictions usually the price is very attractive.

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    Re: Retail Vs. OEM (Vista Ultimate)

    Sure is. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> Or the other way around; with an attractive price one can live with quite a lot.

    As to transfer it should have said, "be legally transferred".

    Ed Bott has covered quite a lot of questions related to licenses; also the case what to do when your hardware dies and you have an OEM license, is it possible to reinstall on new hardware?

    Depending on the type of OEM you bought it from, "royalty OEM's" with their SLP-locked systems or you built the system yourself as mentioned above or a "white box builder" did it, it's a difference.

    In the last two cases it's possible, in the first case it needs identical motherboard and BIOS. Can you transfer your Windows license to a new PC?

    "You may have to activate the new installation over the phone, but you should be able to use your existing CD key."

    I didn't have to use the phone at all; 18 months ago I changed everything but the HDD/DVD/CD and some non-monitored peripherals, and it activated just fine.

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    Re: Retail Vs. OEM (Vista Ultimate)

    I have always purchased the OEM version, which as others have said and no doubt you are more than aware, the price is much less than a retail version. Usually, you can buy an OEM version if you also purchase a piece of hardware, e.g., hard drive, motherboard, even a DVD writer, etc. I've never had a problem activating the product through the normal means and I have transferred Windows to a new PC without a problem; a phone call when activating (required) posed no problem whatsoever. The main difference is that you do NOT get free support from Microsoft. But forums like this are usually all you need when help is required. <img src=/S/wink.gif border=0 alt=wink width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Retail Vs. OEM (Vista Ultimate)

    Just wanted to say thank you all for the info! <img src=/S/clapping.gif border=0 alt=clapping width=19 height=23>
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