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    XP Program Move

    I know there are a number available, they need not be freeware as I may already have one, but I would like to move major programs from one partition to the boot partition (same physical drive) on an XP Pro computer.

    This isn't an everyday thing, and I would welcome opinions from anyone who has had experience with it.

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    Re: XP Program Move

    With XP, the times I've moved applications I've just un-installed and re-installed them. I've not looked for anything to move an application since Win98 days. Even then that was always an 'iffy' process. Seems like something in the registry would be missed.

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    Re: XP Program Move

    The only thing I've ever had any experience with was something called AlohaBob PC Relocator, but that was seven or eight years ago. Even then, its success was marginal for me at best for the place where I was employed at the time. One of these OLD links tells a story that Microsoft bought the company, but I don't know anything about that either. The only reason I mention it is to give you something you might want to continue Googling for.

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    Re: XP Program Move

    I expected an avalanche and got two replies. What are all these do-everything-but-wash-your-socks-for-you registry programs in business for?

    Consider jv16. I can’t afford the new version, but the old is fine for XP. In theory all I have to do is make a full precautionary backup, run jv16 so that it knows exactly what I have, then copy all of the files for all the programs I want from one partition to the other, delete them on the ‘old’ partition so that they are moved, and run jv16 again to ‘clean’ the registry and it will see what has changed and make the appropriate corrections.

    The same is true for System Mechanic, Registry Mechanic or something called Program Mover in SystemSuite, which is best known for PowerDesk 6, a program that has received much attention in the Lounge. (Certain versions included it, but whether all do or not I have no idea.) There are doubtless many others.

    The reason I want to move the applications is that the computer is a turkey and the applications are worth a fortune, and if I can use any of various utilities, such as LapLink PCMover, to put them on a more powerful computer, then I will be happy to do so. The computer is in mothballs but the software I want to transfer to a (hypothetical) new computer, is the latest. I was a fool to put it there in the first place, but that was my main computer at the time, and I had hoped to learn to use it on that computer. Even that was a lost cause. Having the programs on a single partition is just to make it easy to transfer them to a modern computer.

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    Re: XP Program Move

    I've got an application mover that dates from the days of Win 98 (Magic Mover, part of Partition Magic 4) and I've never touched it. The thought of such an operation conjures up the contrast between a brand new car straight off the production line, built in order and ready to go vs a Johnny Cash version.

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    Re: XP Program Move

    There's a program called COA2 that was written by PC Magazine. Hasn't been updated since 2001 and is release 1.0. But I've used on and off as recently as a few weeks back and it works fine under WinXP SP2. Do a Google search with COA2 and there are some copies floating around. If you go to PC Magazine, then you have to subscribe to their download service to get it.

    I'm not surprised that there aren't more programs like this. The real value of this program is to move applications from one disk to another. But this really only applies to people who partition their hard drives, a VERY small number of power users, or to those with multiple hard disks, again a relatively small number of people. Most people have one big hard drive and one hard drive letter (C.

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    Re: XP Program Move

    >The reason I want to move the applications is that the computer is a turkey and the applications are worth a fortune, and if I can use any of various utilities, such as LapLink PCMover, to put them on a more powerful computer, then I will be happy to do so.

    So what you are saying is that you don't have the install disks for the software you want to move ??? The consensus seems to be that it's easier and more reliable to simply reinstall the software on the new computer and transfer any data for the programs.

    Perhaps you could pull the HD from the old PC and install it as a second drive (not a slave) in the new system. Then when you wanted to use the programs you could boot to that drive.
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    Re: XP Program Move

    >>>But this really only applies to people who partition their hard drives, a VERY small number of power users, or to those with multiple hard disks, again a relatively small number of people. Most people have one big hard drive and one hard drive letter (C.
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    Says WHO?
    I wonder how true this really is?
    I'll have to put a poll out on this here in the Lounge. It would be interesting. Maybe you are right?
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    Re: XP Program Move

    Do it, I'll respond! I have two SATA hard drives, both of which have more than one partition, for different reasons.

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    Re: XP Program Move

    I do have the software I want to move and a fresh installation would be a relief. I was more worried about licences. (I had a furious exchange with a source of speech-recognition software within the past week.) Further to that I have ShadowProtect to drop the whole setup into place and to do it from from my new computer, not the turkey.

    Incidentally, it was Microsoft's lowball specifications for Vista that led to all manner of outlandish installations. I have a laptop computer that qualifies me to participate in the class-action lawsuit against MS.

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    Re: XP Program Move

    This will rock the floor.....
    I have a 160 Gbyte Drive C imaged with RAID 1
    I have a 160 Gbyte Drive D:;E; and F: (partitioned)
    I have a 160 Gbyte Drive G:; & H: (partitioned)
    I have a 300 Gbyte Drive I: (in Lian-Li cradle) Used to Image (TI v10) Drive C and "Copy" D:;E:;F:;G: & H: on every alternate Sunday
    I have a 300 Gbyte Drive J: in Liai-Li cradle) Used to Image (TI v10) Drive C and "Copy" D:;E:;F:;G: & H: on every other Sunday
    I was caught once with 4 backups (see post about 3 years ago ~ none worked) since then I have chosen to copy rather than image my data or backup using any backup software.
    HDD's are cheap, A big power supply is necessary.
    Believe it or not I am about to change the 300Gbyte drives to 700 Gbyte and use the 300Gbyte drives for DVD creation.
    Thus there are 4 physical drives in the drive bays, two in the cradles.
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    Re: XP Program Move

    <hr>
    >>>But this really only applies to people who partition their hard drives, a VERY small number of power users, or to those with multiple hard disks, again a relatively small number of people. Most people have one big hard drive and one hard drive letter (C<img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>.
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    Says WHO?
    I wonder how true this really is?
    I'll have to put a poll out on this here in the Lounge. It would be interesting. Maybe you are right?<hr>

    Ha, sez me, that's who. A poll here wouldn't prove anything. Many people here are geeks and well versed in tech, so are aware of the value of partitioning.

    Even tech company developers don't always know about logical disks or allow you to install an application where you want. Google Earth, for example, only installs to C:Program Files. You are not offered any choice of install location these days. Acronis (which should know better) will allow a choice of install locations, but pretty much ignores what you specify and puts most files again, in C:Program Files. I battled with them on this, getting nowhere, so finally gave up trying to put their files on my D: drive. I install Quicken on my D: drive but it still litters C:Program Files with a variety of other folders and files. There are many other examples. I've never been able to talk to any of the developers of the above mentioned products but it is my belief that they do what they do because it fits the makeup of the general user population. It's why virtually every program defaults to C:Program Files as the install location for a new application. If there were many people who raised a hue and cry about these practices, then they would likely change their process.

    Looking at the big picture, few normal users have or know what a partitioned disk is. I'd be surprised if more than 10% of the Windows user base has partitioned disks.

    BTW: I have 11 partitions across 5 physical disks (2 SCSI, 2 SATA, 1 PATA).

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    Re: XP Program Move

    "Many people here are geeks and well versed in tech, so are aware of the value of partitioning." - Well on a few of my machines (with one physical disk) I have only one partition - so I guess I'm not a "geek" but ...... ??????

    "Even tech company developers don't always know about logical disks" - Oh, I hope not!

    "It's why virtually every program defaults to C:Program Files as the install location for a new application. If there were many people who raised a hue and cry about these practices, then they would likely change their process." - WHY ?? I'm not sure why I should care about where the application is installed as long as it works - or am I missing something ??

    "BTW: I have 11 partitions across 5 physical disks (2 SCSI, 2 SATA, 1 PATA)." ....................... Well that's nice, but ............... ???????
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    Re: XP Program Move

    <hr>WHY ?? I'm not sure why I should care about where the application is installed as long as it works - or am I missing something ??<hr>

    Yup. There have been discussion on partitioning here here in the past.

    Since you list yourself as a WMVP, I'll point you to a Microsoft site for information:
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/s..._partition.mspx

    You can also run this Google search for more information:
    http://www.google.com/search?q=value+of+ha...lient=firefox-a

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    Re: XP Program Move

    >> Since you list yourself as a WMVP, I'll point you to a Microsoft site for information:

    I'm not sure I follow the logic of that!

    (Incidentally, John doesn't 'list himself' as a WMVP. His title of Woody's Most Valuable Person[/b] is bequeathed upon him by the powers from above in recognition of his skills, experience and helpfulness, not to mention attitude, when volunteering his time here at the Lounge! <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15> )

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