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    Firewall Recommendation

    Hi all,

    After long sticking to Zone Alarm, and having been a rather passive and apathetic FW user, I wanted to hear other Loungers' opinions.

    A search reaching back to as far as 2004 yielded two results:
    Post 1: on Comodo Firewall getting a high rate.
    Post 2: Jeff's Starpost, mentioning Agnitum, ISS, Sygate, Symantec, Zone Labs.

    I'm looking for a <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15> alternative. Which would you recommend? If any of you has tried a FW software other than ZA, would you please share your experience?

    Thank you in advance.
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    Re: Firewall Recommendation

    I'm sure you'll get many recommendations, but can ANYONE give substantive evidence or examples where the FREE built-in Windows firewall has failed to provide adequate protection ??? There are all sorts of articles decrying the inadequacies of the Windows firewall, but I've yet to read any concrete examples where a computer has been placed at risk by using this firewall.
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    Re: Firewall Recommendation

    I like Outpost Free Firewall - so much so that I bought the Pro version. Really though, I probably only use the features of the free version anyway. I've had very little in the way of annoyance mail from them over the years.

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    Re: Firewall Recommendation

    I've used the paid version of ZoneAlarm (Internet Security Suite) this past year, and I liked Outpost Pro better. However, if I wanted a free product, I would try Comodo and see how it compares with ZoneAlarm. The extra features sound very interesting, and once you've trained two firewalls, it is not so annoying to train a third one. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Firewall Recommendation

    Hi John, at least in earlier versions, the Windows firewall did not stop outbound connections by untrusted programs; it did not offer program control. This creates a gap in which undetected spyware could communicate to its master. Of course, with good antivirus and anti-spyware, the gap should be small, but a program control firewall can help plug it -- at the cost of annoying you with lots of permission requests. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Firewall Recommendation

    Hi Diegol

    Is it fair to assume that you already have a hardware firewall? If not, that's the first thing I'd get before worrying about which software firewall...
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    Re: Firewall Recommendation

    Hi Jefferson,
    Of course you're correct regarding outbound connections. I guess my post was more a question than a statement. Assuming one has the proper defences in place (hardware firewall, up-to-date AV protection, up-to-date spyware/malware protection), is anything more than a rudimentary software firewall (such as the Windows firewall) really required? Overkill though, I suppose, is the better option.
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    Re: Firewall Recommendation

    I used the Windows XP firewall for 4 years in combination with up-to-date anti-virus and anti-spyware protection for years and never had a problem. The only reason that I don't use it at the moment is that I upgraded my anti-virus software, and the new version came with a firewall that automatically turns off the Windows firewall. So in my experience, a basic firewall if sufficient if your other security software is up-to-date.

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    Re: Firewall Recommendation

    Hello BATcher,
    <hr>Is it fair to assume that you already have a hardware firewall? If not, that's the first thing I'd get before worrying about which software firewall...<hr>
    No it's not. Why would I want a piece of hardware? My home user needs are very simple, to the extent that I believe I could manage without a firewall at all (but again, I'm not very literate in firewalls).

    I do feel more comfortable using ZoneAlarm because it lets me control which programs connect to the internet. What I do not like about ZoneAlarm is that some of its system files tend to bloat, making ZA take forever to launch in my old machine (it was an old version I was using; the problem may well have been solved by now). I believe this should not happen in my new PC, but if there is a better alternative, why bother guessing?
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    Re: Firewall Recommendation

    Avast! does not have a firewall in it. (At least the free edition does not, which I use. I don't think the paid one does either.)

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    Re: Firewall Recommendation

    > Why would I want a piece of hardware?

    Because you get a hardware firewall <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15> with all routers (wired or wireless) that I'm aware of, and having a hardware firewall means that you have screened out perhaps 95-99% of all the attacks that would otherwise have to be dealt with by a software firewall. Indeed, I have heard it argued that if you have a hardware firewall you don't really need to bother having a software firewall, just the usual antivirus and antispyware which is always required. Me - I'd use both.

    You can have minutes of fun reading the results from Googling "hardware software firewall", or similar search string.
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    Re: Firewall Recommendation

    Hi, I've just dumped Comodo Firewall 3 in favour of Online Armor. I had problems with the Comodo Firewall crashing when I switched off the computer. It's very early days with Online Armor but I have a good feeling about it - the same one I used to get when using Sygate. I'm using the Free edition of Online Armor at the moment and it includes some hips protection. If it works out well I might even end up buying a subscription and completely replacing ProcessGuard which I'm still using.

    Hope this helps,

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    Re: Firewall Recommendation

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by jscher2000 on 16-Mar-08 13:07. Changed link tag from wiki syntax to Lounge syntax.)</P>I use Comodo Firewall on my computers, I find it very easy to use and have only ever had one problem with it. There was a compatibility issue with Vista and Windows update which caused some updates to fail, but Comodo very quickly released an updated version which solved the problem.

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    Re: Firewall Recommendation

    <hr>Indeed, I have heard it argued that if you have a hardware firewall you don't really need to bother having a software firewall, just the usual antivirus and antispyware which is always required. Me - I'd use both.<hr>
    I agree that the best thing about an external device that uses NAT (network address translation) is that the mindless probes of Internet zombies bounce off before they reach your computer, so you reduce the possibility of your software firewall making an error or crashing, and reduce processor cycles that would be consumed by examining all of that junk traffic.

    However, hardware-based firewalls cannot implement outbound access control by program, so if you wish to have this feature to supplement your antivirus and anti-spyware defenses, you should add a software firewall.

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