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    Windows Script Host

    I was visiting a web page (can't remember which one) but a message appeared that said "Windows Script Host access is disabled on this machine."
    I was advised by a friend to open My Computer > Tools > Folder Options, and open File Types tab. Look for VBScript file and delete it.I've used this computer for 3 years and never encountered such a message.

    That seems rather drastic, so I decided I'd ask the experts here before I performed such a drastic fix (if it is one).

    Also, I would like to ask a question regarding Services: I see Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS). Status: Started
    Startup Type: Manual. My question is, if I don't use Windows Firewall, should I disable the above service? The description doesn't open my brain cells and let the light in.
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    Re: Windows Script Host

    Deleteing the VBScript entry is not a fix. this just means you've got scripting disabled in your Internet options. that is likely a good thing. It would really help if you could remember the site so someone here might check it out.

    You'd be better off starting another thread to ask the question about the firewall service. It can get confusing for other readers if there is more than one subject in a thread. Anyway, there may be other services that depend on this service. I'd just leave it be. Since your startup type is MANUAL and it is started that means you ran a program that needed some facility in this service.

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    Re: Windows Script Host

    The dependencies listed for ICS are RPC. I have ICS disabled on my system.
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    Re: Windows Script Host

    I'll chime in and echo Joe here. It is bad advice to suggest the indiscriminate deletion of something, simply because it might represent something undesirable on some web pages. It's always better to selectively disable its function in the browser. VBScript can be and is used for many purposes, and to suggest its blanket disabling is born of ignorance I'm afraid.

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    Re: Windows Script Host

    I'll agree with Joe and Alan regarding VBS.
    I hope all will notice that my post was about disabling ICS only, not VBS.
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    Re: Windows Script Host

    I looked at Internet Options and can't find anything that might apply. What should I look for?

    You're correct. I will go to another board and ask my question.
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    Re: Windows Script Host

    Thanks Bob, I will disable on mine too.
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    Re: Windows Script Host

    I agree with you Alan. I have no intention of deleting Windows Script Host. I've received too many emails with attachments that required it to open. I don't visit places that are not legitimate where I might pick up a disease like worms and viruses. My mail is scanned before it loads into OE by two programs, Avast firewall and Mail Washer Pro which I use to read them prior to opening OE. Being careful about what you open and where you visit is the key to safe computing.
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    Re: Windows Script Host

    The thread is about VBScript so I guess I should mention something about that first; I agree with Joe, Alan, John (and you); it's drastic to edit/remove file types for something that is a result of IE settings.

    As you, and several others, I don't use the Windows Firewall. But the service has other purposes as well, guess most use are for people setting up networks. In all XP editions it's set to automatic (the service in this version came at SP2 level), mine is on automatic and I see no direct need to change it (disable). True, by default, no components are dependent on this service, but what do I gain by disabling it? More free memory? Hardly measurable. Possible future headache when trying to troubleshoot and remember which service I have tweaked, maybe.

    And what if this situation comes: some people seems very interested in changing and trying several firewalls. OK, fine. If a new installed firewall is compatible with SP2 (or Vista for them using that OS) it should turn of the Windows FW. OK, but during this process it can happen that a user don't have any third party FW installed. What should kick in then to protect the PC? The service is then disabled. ( <img src=/S/hmmn.gif border=0 alt=hmmn width=15 height=15> then since I don't change FWs as I change socks, don't run a network, it means I could disable the service ... )

    There are no direct harm in disabling it. But the recommendations at Charles "Black Viper" Sparks site and the Elder are: leave it on automatic.

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    Re: Windows Script Host

    In regards to the main subject, I have searched Internet Options and Windows Services and cannot find any place to enable or disable VBScript. Could you please, point me in the right direction.

    As for the Windows Firewall, if I remove a third party one, I go directly to the WFW and enable it until I install a new one. I reverse that procedure when I decide what Firewall I want to use instead. In view of this, do you still think I should enable the WFW in services?
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    Re: Windows Script Host

    I'm no IE user (gave up on the myriad of settings and other things; true one could make it "rather" simple by using a strict High level in Internet zone and add trusted sites to the Trusted zone, and thus using levels instead of individual settings), so I'm happy with Fx now.

    Scripting, JavaScript or VBScript, is controlled under active scripting.
    IE Options (Tools menu or Control Panel)
    Security tab, Internet zone, Custom level
    Under the Scripting section you will find "Active Scripting".

    For years we have known to be a little careful with scripts, can be a help, but also used for something bad. Disabling it would probably break some good sites, setting it to prompt is good, but then there will be bunches of prompt messages. Workaround would be to use Trusted Zones. But you could see if anyone using IE on a daily base has something to comment on this.

    As to Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) service.
    I would leave it on, but that is just me. A tweak (change from default value) should have a purpose and should be able to reach the intended goal. If I don't know if I need to do something, what it will do, then I will leave it alone until the need is there and I know why I do it and what the consequences will be.

    What was your purpose? To be extra sure that no windows firewall was running, even if the Security Center said that your third party FW was up and running? True some may disable it as a security measure (the (ICS) Internet Connection Sharing bit) but I haven't read myself into that, just thinking that if disabled then there will be no firewall no matter what people try to enable in Security Center. I guess all SP2 compatible firewalls do detect the Windows FW and turn it off, and it turns back on when third party is removed, so no need for Intervention.

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    Re: Windows Script Host

    Thank you Argus. I found Scripting just where you said it was, but all three options were already enabled. So, now I really don't understand why I received that access is disabled message.I haven't seen it again so I will let that subject for now.

    I also, don't know if a compatible third party firewall turns WFW off once installed, I just wasn't taking any changes with a conflict of service.
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    Re: Windows Script Host

    The Windows firewall should be left alone even after you have a third party firewall installed. There is a period of time when Windows is starting up that any third party firewall is not running. The Windows firewall starts up very early in the boot process protecting your machine while all the networking 'stuff' is being loaded and initialized. When Windows loads the third party firewall at a certain point in the third party firewall initialization process it will communicate with the Windows firewall and take over the firewall work thereby temporarily disabling the Windows firewall.

    As far as the scripting settings go, did you check all the site types in your Internet Options - Internet, Trusted, and Restricted?

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    Re: Windows Script Host

    You surprised me. I was given to understand that two firewalls should not be running at the same time on one machine. Was I wrong (as usual)?

    As for your question, no I have not checked. I'm going to leave that alone for now, until it happens again.
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    Re: Windows Script Host

    They won't run simultaneously. As Joe already mentioned, the built-in Windows firewall will load very early in the Windows startup process. It will protect your computer until your third-party firewall is ready to be loaded. The third-party firewall will then disable the Windows firewall for the rest of the session. So they don't run at the same time.

    Two third-party firewalls, however, would cause a problem - they would fight each other for precedence.

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