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    Downloading update (XP 2002 Prof SP2)

    Following a prompt in the systray informing me that an update was available I tried to so do using both Firefox and IE but in both instances got a message saying the download had failed [see attachment] any suggestions as to how to solve this glitch would be appreciated. Could it be that Zone Alarm needs to be disabled & Windows firewall activated first I wonder? Regards SF
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    Re: Downloading update (XP 2002 Prof SP2)

    Do you really need the .Net Framework? If so, try to uninstall ALL .Net Framework components and reinstall them - see this MSKB article.

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    Re: Downloading update (XP 2002 Prof SP2)

    Prompted by your question "...do you really need..." I started wondering myself. As near as I can remember it, I was prompted to install the .Net framework a long time ago when I installed some piece of application software such as Paint.NET - Free Software for Digital Photo Editing. I also think that other apps have come along which require the .Net framework, but I don't remember now what they are.

    I do know that I've NEVER been prompted by something in the System Tray to do an update, so I don't know what to suggest in this problem except to follow your recommendation and remove it all and start over. As you can see in this attachment, I have .Net framework out the wazoo on my machine and I have no idea if Paint.Net put it all there or if MS XP updates have done so or what the heck.
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    Re: Downloading update (XP 2002 Prof SP2)

    Yes, there are several applications that require the .Net Framework. I think that once you've installed the .Net Framework, Microsoft will include updates to it in the automatic updates.

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    Re: Downloading update (XP 2002 Prof SP2)

    Al, this is that "something in the system tray".
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    Re: Downloading update (XP 2002 Prof SP2)

    Hmmm, veddy interesting, Doc. I've never seen that one and I just checked around in my MSCONFIG and don't have anything resembling that turned off. What does it lead to, or if you right-click it, what shows up? Could you possibly have the answer to the OP's question? Glad you chimed in.

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    Re: Downloading update (XP 2002 Prof SP2)

    The icon that DocWatson pointed to is displayed if you have updates set to
    - Notify you that new updates are available to be downloaded, or
    - Notify you that new updates have been downloaded and are now ready to be installed.
    You won't see it if you let updates be installed automatically, or if you have turned off automatic updates altogether.

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    Re: Downloading update (XP 2002 Prof SP2)

    Thanks Hans, and sorry for adding mud to the water in this thread. I do have automatic updates completely turned off and always have. I make it a point to check for MS Windows updates once each month and I consider that enough for my tastes.

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    Re: Downloading update (XP 2002 Prof SP2)

    Hans beat me to it. I have mine set to notify but not download. I ignore it until I check Woody's recommendations and then follow what da Boss says to do. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Downloading update (XP 2002 Prof SP2)

    Thank you all gentlemen, as the thread has unfolded various factors have been confirmed. Hans is right - as ever- that the yellow shield with the exclamation mark that appeared in the sys tray does so because I clicked the settings to let me know when an update is available but that I decide when it should be downloaded & installed. I notice from the screen shot (attached) that the AUTOMATIC update is (Recommended). Please tell me if I should select the first option without delay as I obviously want up to date protection for my computer. As for Hans's question < Do I really need .Net Framework> Guys, I haven't a clue, the only lead I have is the comment Big Al made about Paint.NET et which seems to have some significance as I downloaded that program some time ago [though I have never used it] and maybe should uninstall it right away and see if that stops the prompt from appearing. Just out of curiosity I just now tried to open Paint.NET and got the message also shown in the attachment so I feel inclined to get rid of it. Regards SF
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    Re: Downloading update (XP 2002 Prof SP2)

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    Re: Downloading update (XP 2002 Prof SP2)

    I'd start by uninstalling all versions and updates of the .Net framework.
    If you want to keep Paint.Net, you do need the .Net framework. In that case you should reinstall the components in the order described in the MSKB article I referred to.
    If you don't need Paint.Net any more, you can uninstall it, and there may be no need to reinstall the .Net framework. You can always do so later on if it turns out that you need it.

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    Re: Downloading update (XP 2002 Prof SP2)

    Pardon my repetition somewhat but this thread raises another question which -maybe should be posted elsewhere - but as it concerns the two attachments perhaps you will allow me to ask it here. Each of the jpg screen shots were 32kb which together come within the maximum allowance for attachments but only one can be sent with a reply however, I noticed that if both are copied and pasted into a WORD file the size becomes 288 kb whilst if they are dragged into a folder the size remains just 64 kb. Rather than having to send two posts in order to send the two screen shots, is it possible to attach them in the folder as 64kb is well within limits. OR would it not be possible to open them at their destination? Regards SF
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    Re: Downloading update (XP 2002 Prof SP2)

    That's more suitable for the Lounge Matters forum, but there's no objection to posting two replies in succession if you want to attach two screenshots. If you prefer to keep them together, you could create a zip file (compressed folder) with the two (or more) files and attach the zip file.

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    Re: Downloading update (XP 2002 Prof SP2)

    SORRY to be a nuisance gentlemen but I just tried to uninstall Pain.NET and found it would not do so, please see the two screen shots in the attachment. I think I need help big time here and step by step instructions to bring this saga to an end. Regards SF
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