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    Dual Boot and Drive Letters (Ultimate)

    I installed my long-awaited copy of Vista Ultimate this morning in a trouble free installation so I'm just now joining the Vista world. My machine has TWO internal SATA hard drives. It has been my intention all along to keep XP MCE around in a dual boot situation, so I followed my own advice from <post:=709,309>post 709,309</post:> and did a little reading at Getting started with Windows Vista, the fairly new MS Help site. The subject of dual boot is discussed in these TWO alternatives:
    <hr>Control which drive letter your boot volume uses

    Which drive letter will your clean installation of Windows Vista use? That depends on how you install it. If you currently have a working copy of any Windows version on drive C and you install a clean copy of Windows, drive letters are assigned using the following logic:

    If you begin the installation process by booting from the Windows Vista media and choose a partition other than the one containing your current copy of Windows, the new installation uses the drive letter C when you start up. The volume that contains the other Windows installation uses the next available drive letter. When you choose the previous Windows installation from the startup menu, it uses the drive letter C, and your new Windows Vista installation is assigned the next available drive letter. In this configuration, you can be certain that your current operating system is always on the C drive, but drive letters assigned to volumes you use for data may shift in unexpected ways.

    If you begin the installation process by running Setup from within your current version of Windows and use the Custom (Advanced) option to perform a clean install on a partition other than the one currently in use, the new installation uses the next available drive letter. The volumes containing each installation have the same drive letters regardless of which Windows version you select at startup.

    There’s no inherent reason to prefer either of these options over the other. If you prefer the consistency of knowing that all system files and program files are on the C drive, you’ll probably want to choose the first option. If you would rather use drive letters to keep track of which Windows version is running at any given time, you’ll prefer the second option. But either configuration should work reliably with any combination of software, hardware, and settings.
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    I chose the first of those two alternatives, thinking that there just might be some software, somewhere along the line, that could balk if it's not installed on the C: drive. It's working as advertised, i.e. when I boot to Vista, it's the C: drive and my XP drive lists as D: but if I boot XP, it takes the C: and the Vista drive shows up as D: which is fine with me.

    While this is still a fresh installation and it would be easy for me to do it again, I wanted to ask other Lounge Vista users if you can envision any pitfalls in the choice I made. If anyone has any experience that would indicate it's better to install Vista on a D: drive and let it KEEP that letter, please let me know. Meanwhile, I have a little driver work to do, easily solved, for my sound card and Canon scanner. I think I already have the drivers.

    PS Me and the UAC are getting along just fine, thank you very much! <img src=/S/laugh.gif border=0 alt=laugh width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Dual Boot and Drive Letters (Ultimate)

    I don't know of any issues keeping it just the way you have it. Just to make your life a little easier check out Disable Annoying Vista UAC popups with TweakUAC (free!) » What is TweakUAC? (I run with UAC in quiet mode). For a <img src=/S/free.gif border=0 alt=free width=30 height=15> tweaker check out Unlock for Us: WinBubble 1.72, "Customization and Tweaks, Not Just for Geek's But For ALL" was released. If you use the preview pane in Windows Explorer you might want TweakVista.com - Expand Explorer Preview Pane with PreviewConfig.

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    Re: Dual Boot and Drive Letters (Ultimate)

    Thanks for the comments, Joe. I had downloaded both WinBubble and TweakUAC based on your previous posts and will install them pretty soon. Right now I'm trying to deal with drivers for my audio and scanner which I was pretty darn sure I had on hand, but I'm not having any luck. Thanks again.

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    Re: Dual Boot and Drive Letters (Ultimate)

    Install True Image or your other SP program and keep burning images at major steps as you go along. You know it is quicker to restore a image than it is to start all over.

    I found that the scanner drivers from each OEM should work with other OEM's. This said, be sure to check out each OEM site. Also note, do NOT attempt to install any of the software that comes with the older scanners. I just use the Vista twain driver that I got from Cannon or HP (They were the same) from within my photo editing programs. The OCR lites will give you problems with IE. I had to run "As admin" to get IE to open. This was during beta and I had to restore a image to get things back. A uninstall of the OCR program did NOT fix things.

    Also note that all of those fancy one button things on your non Vista scanner is NOT going to work, unless the OEM came out with Vista ready programs.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Dual Boot and Drive Letters (Ultimate)

    Al,

    I've done it both ways and had no problems whatsoever. My current setup is Vista = C: and XP = F:. I would also recommend you consider installing VistaBoot Pro which will allow you to quickly and easily change which OS you want to boot as default as well as many other options.

    Re: UAC you don't need a 3rd-party program to turn it on or off. That is easily done from Control Panel/Accounts where there is the option to turn it on or off.

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    Re: Dual Boot and Drive Letters (Ultimate)

    The advantage of TweakUAC is that it lets you run in the 'middle' with a 'quiet' mode where UAC is still on but elevation prompts for admins are suppressed.

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    Re: Dual Boot and Drive Letters (Ultimate)

    We have been running Vista with UAC on and adjusted real quick and do not even realize the extra clicks.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Dual Boot and Drive Letters (Ultimate)

    Thanks Jeff, I've had Boot Pro installed ever since the Vista Beta and it IS a nice, clean way to make changes or adjustments.

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    Re: Dual Boot and Drive Letters (Ultimate)

    TweakUAC does not require an install. Just download and run. I set UAC to 'quiet' mode and see very few UAC prompts. I prefer this as I'm very careful about what I download and run. The few I do see don't bother me a bit.

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    Re: Dual Boot and Drive Letters (Ultimate)

    I'm going now to install TweakUAC to see what happens. I get the security warning at boot time only that I have UAC turned off, so I turned it back on and will see what TweakUAC gives me.

    For yours and Dave's edification, I'm not sure if I'm gonna say this correctly or not. I don't mind the "elevation prompts" if what you mean by that is those "...Are you sure you want to do this..." or whatever it says, as OPPOSED to the popups that refuse to let me run a file to install a piece of software because I don't have permission. So far, I've been going to the Security tab on the file's Properties and adding my user account (which IS Admin in level) with FULL CONTROL just to be able to run an .exe file. Now THAT is more than annoying by a few extra clicks, it's a pain in the you-know-what!
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    Re: Dual Boot and Drive Letters (Ultimate)

    Joe, see the graphic I added to that post while you were posting. I'm trying to RUN TweakUAC and being told I ain't got enough PERMISSION. Sucks!!!

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    Re: Dual Boot and Drive Letters (Ultimate)

    Have you tried 'run as administrator'? Is the account your are running in a member of the admin group?

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    Re: Dual Boot and Drive Letters (Ultimate)

    No to both questions, Joe, but I WILL check those two items when I get back to Vista. I had to re-boot to XP to get some "work" done... <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    More later, AND thanks again...

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    Re: Dual Boot and Drive Letters (Ultimate)

    I've been back to try, Joe and Vista won't let me run as Administrator, not anything! And I AM in the Administrator group, so can you think of tnything else I need to do?

    No wonder newbies get frustrated...

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    Re: Dual Boot and Drive Letters (Ultimate)

    Have you executed anything else from that folder? Can you copy or move the .exe to some other folder and try it?

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