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    File open speed (XP, SR2)

    Hi -

    Why does a file open MUCH faster if first opening Word (from desktop shortcut) and then, from bottom of File menu, clicking the file?

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    Re: File open speed (XP, SR2)

    Do you mean faster than double-clicking the document from Windows Explorer if Word is not running yet? That's because starting Word takes time. When you double-click a document, Windows has to start Word *and* open the document.
    Or did you mean something else?

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    Re: File open speed (XP, SR2)

    Hi, Hans -

    The scenario: in morning, I boot up. Both Word and the document are shortcuts on desktop. Neither Word (shortcut) nor the file (shortcut) is yet opened. I understand that each, Word and doc, take time to open. My puzzle is that if I open Word then the file I can save at least half the time (over just hitting the shortcut to the file). Nothing earth shattering, just puzzling. Is it because the file shortcut has to do double duty: open Word and then itself?

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    Re: File open speed (XP, SR2)

    Do you mean that the combined time of starting Word then opening the document is less than the time of opening the document from the desktop? I can't explain that - I would have expected that there wouldn't be much difference.

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    Re: File open speed (XP, SR2)

    Exactly!

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    Re: File open speed (XP, SR2)

    Strange - I just tested it, and on my PC (with Word 2002 SP3), double-clicking a document while Word is not running is faster than opening Word, then opening the document. <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>

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    Re: File open speed (XP, SR2)

    I have noticed this too.

    I just did the following experiment. I measured the time from when I double clicked the mouse to when the text cursor was ready to accept input.
    <UL><LI>Initial setup
    <UL><LI>Create a new empty word document on the desktop (from Windows right click menu)
    <LI>Double click the word document to open it
    <LI>Close document and exit from word[/list]<LI>Experiment 1, open from word file menu first, then by double clicking document
    <UL><LI>Double click word icon on desktop to start word
    <LI>When word opens go to file menu and select top item
    <LI>Total elapsed time - including my mousing to open the document - 6 seconds
    <LI>Close document and exit from word
    <LI>Double click the same blank document on desktop
    <LI>Total elapsed time to open document 18 seconds[/list]<LI>Wait one minute
    <LI>Experiment 2, open by double clicking document first, then from word file menu
    <UL><LI>Double click the blank document on desktop
    <LI>Total elapsed time to open document 19 seconds
    <LI>Close document and exit from word
    <LI>Double click word icon on desktop to start word
    <LI>When word opens go to file menu and select top item
    <LI>Total elapsed time - including my mousing to open the document - 6 seconds[/list][/list]So for me opening a blank document by double clicking takes nearly 3 times as long as opening it from the Word file menu

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    Re: File open speed (XP, SR2)

    I repeated your experiment using Word 2002 SP3 on a 5 year old Dell PC with a 2.5 GHz Pentium IV, 512 MB RAM, Windows XP Home SP3. Other applications running were Symantec Anti-Virus, Internet Explorer 7 with 3 open tabs, Outlook 2002, FastStone Capture, Windows Explorer.

    Initial setup as described by you.

    Experiment 1:
    <LI>Double click Word, then open file from within Word: 5 seconds.
    <LI>Double click file from desktop: 1 second.

    Experiment 2 (after waiting for a minute):
    <LI>Double click file from desktop: 1 second.
    <LI>Double click Word, then open file from within Word: 4 seconds.

    Most of the longer times was spent using the mouse to open the File menu and selecting the file.

    I have no idea why the results are so different.

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    Re: File open speed (XP, SR2)

    How interesting. I wonder what could be going on here.

    I will try to repeat the experiment on some of my other PCs when I get a chance, to see if they all behave the same.

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    Re: File open speed (XP, SR2)

    After much experimenting, and monitoring of file and registry access, I am pretty sure that this was something to do with my default printer. The monitoring seemed to suggest that long delays were occurring while opening printer drivers.

    I have another PC at home that is similarly configured, but which opened files at normal (fast) speed. One of the few differences is that the other PC connects to the Network printer directly, the problem PC connects to it as a shared printer on a different PC.

    I changed my default printer to the direct network connection and word then opens very fast when I double click the desktop shortcut.
    What is inexplicable is that when I switched back to using the served printer it still opens very fast! So I no longer have a problem.

    <img src=/S/shrug.gif border=0 alt=shrug width=39 height=15>

    StuartR

    Some time later...
    It looks like the faster startup was NOT due to the change in default printer, but just due to me being less rigorous in my testing. If I open the shortcut on the desktop twice in a row then the second time is very fast!

    SR

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    Re: File open speed (XP, SR2)

    Interesting. FWIW, we found the following reported items might also be responsible for this:

    1) Add-ins (i.e., PDF creator add-in from Adobe, business contact manager add-in) (Solution: remove Add-ins).
    2) An update causing a glitch in the way DDE (Dynamic Data Exchange) works. (Solution: Turn off DDE).
    3) Kodak Easyshare Software. (Solution: remove)
    4) Another guy recommended unplugging all network cables
    5) Someone also mentioned a "networked printer" causing the problem.

    The DDE issue seemed to fixed the "problem" for several users. You can read about how to temporarily fix it (for Excel) here. You can modify Word .doc files the same way -- if you so desire.

    This is not ideal, because it disables DDE -- which coordinates several Office programs -- such as allowing Word to open Excel spread sheets into a Word document. It is a personal choice.

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