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    Yet Another Permissions Question! (Ultimate)

    I see elsewhere in this forum that the folder Cocuments and Settings from my XP days is now supposed to be C:Users.

    Why is there still a folder called Documents and Settings and why can't I view its contents? I get the dreaded "Access Denied" message.

    OK, so I try to do the same thing on the Users folder and SOME subfolders I can look at and some I get the Access Denied message. Why and can I do anything to change that behaviour? Even getting so drastic as turning OFF UAC does not change this behaviour.

    All I want to do is find where some applications store their "settings" so I can look at or possibly modify them! Some of the @#$%^& subfolders under Users are accessible and on many I get the Access Denied message. What in the heck do I need to read to understand this security overkill once and for all. I don't have any complaints about the look, feel and operation of Vista after only a week, but this "protecting me from myself" stuff is a bit much...
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    Re: Yet Another Permissions Question! (Ultimate)

    This is a hidden folder for those programs that require it for the install to be completed. It will NOT be used by the installed program, it is just a anchor for the install and then things get redirected to the User folder. It is also there for those who do a "Upgrade" install, but again the use will get redirected to the User folder.

    Do NOT muck with it, i.e., do not change owner or try and move or delete it. The mucking with it can and will create problems. Keep it hidden. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Yet Another Permissions Question! (Ultimate)

    Here's an example, Dave. I have an application on my XP drive that I've used for a long time and it stores its settings in an .INI file. When I install that program in Vista, I'd like to be able to copy that .INI file to the C:Userswhatever folder so I don't have to go through ALL THAT SETTING stuff again, much of which I can't even remember! I know it'll only happen a few times, but just for reference there are over 100 .INI files in my current XP user account folder and something like Dymo stamps and labels would be an example.

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    Re: Yet Another Permissions Question! (Ultimate)

    A little more followup just for fueling the topic. In my screenshot above, I went looking for some of the programs that I've already installed such as Clipmate or Adobe Reader and such. First of all, the Application Data folder is "Access Denied". However, the folder called AppData is OK and has three subfolders under it, one or more of which seems to contain the specific products that I've already installed. Do you know of any links at Microsoft or elsewhere that this strategy is written about?

    I am not a wily-nily monkey'er but, and here's another example, I've used my Quicken for SO MANY years that I would hate to have to start all over with settings and such. It would be nice, when I get ready, to bring its .INI file over if I can.

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    Re: Yet Another Permissions Question! (Ultimate)

    Hi Al,

    When I upgraded to Vista Ultimate last year I was also perplexed with the Access Denied messages when trying to look at the contents of a "system" folder. What I found was that right clicking on the folder name and selecting Properties brought up a window with a Security tab that allowed me to edit the parameters. There are some folders that cannot be modified (like main ones), but the majority of others (like sub-folders) can be modified, without causing issues.

    I tinkered with mine several months ago and have not had any issues. <img src=/S/crossfingers.gif border=0 alt=crossfingers width=17 height=16>

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    Re: Yet Another Permissions Question! (Ultimate)

    Al,
    Try this link, it worked for me.

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    Re: Yet Another Permissions Question! (Ultimate)

    Thanks Bob, I'm there now in another tab and gonna do a little reading.

    Interesting, another fluke in The Lounge. Your link had a period (dot) missing in front of the HTML file extension when I clicked it, so the message I got was as attached. So, as a Mod, I came in here to edit your post and "fix" the darned link, but it looked OK in preview, so I just hit the post button and the link seems to be OK. Well, it's Sunday, so who knows what can happen. Thanks.
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    Re: Yet Another Permissions Question! (Ultimate)

    In Vista, "Application Data" is just a shortcut pointing to "UsersusernameAppDataRoaming". See Managing Roaming User Data Deployment Guide for an explanation about Vista folder structure.

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