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    Sending via public wifi (Any)

    I usually use a desktop PC at home, but I am going to be using a laptop next week while I am away from home. I recall that when my wife used her laptop away from home via public wifi access, she could pick up email OK using Outlook, but it wouldn't send. I presume this was because although POP3 allowed her to collect wherever she was connected, SMTP wouldn't let her send unless she was connected via her own ISP. I'd like to be able to receive and send my mail using Outlook, rather than webmail. Is there a way of getting it to send even if I am not connected via my own ISP?

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    Re: Sending via public wifi (Any)

    Others will correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know most (or all) ISPs only let you send (using SMTP) from the connection they provide. What is your objection to webmail?

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    Re: Sending via public wifi (Any)

    My main objection to webmail is that it won't end up in my Outlook folders, I suppose.

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    Re: Sending via public wifi (Any)

    I have 4 e-mail address's using Outlook '07. 2 of which are on Comcast (smtp.comcast.net), and the other 2 which are through a different provider (mail.xxx.com). I travel frequently and the only problem I ever have is with my independent outgoing when I use a VPN connection from JiWire. My Comcast e-mails send and receive w/o any problems with or w/o the VPN. my wife only has Comcast and has never had a problem either, using O.E.
    You might check your e-mail settings.
    If I am forced to use web mail, what I have done is to forward the e-mails to myself, along with the replies. Although it is sort of cumbersome to do so, it does work.
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    Re: Sending via public wifi (Any)

    Hans,
    I know years ago, most ISP's didn't let you "relay" and once they caught this they put a stop to it. I speak from experience. Anymore though and correct me if I am wrong, there doesn't seem to be a problem. I am connected to Comcast and use an independent ISP for 99% of my e-mails, and am able to send and receive just fine.
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    Re: Sending via public wifi (Any)

    You may very well be right - I simply don't know much about this subject.

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    Re: Sending via public wifi (Any)

    Thanks for all the response to this. I also asked on my ISP's newsgroups and their tech staff told me that I could do it if I set the account up with SMTP authentication. So I did that, went away this week with an old laptop hoping to try the theory out, and the old laptop promptly died on me!

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    Re: Sending via public wifi (Any)

    If you use Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook Connector you will have it delivered to your inbox, all of it free of charge.

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    Re: Sending via public wifi (Any)

    Go to the Outlook menu and select Tools, Email Accounts, then View or change email accounts, Next>, then select the account, and then the Change button.
    Once there the "More Settings" in the lower right corner, the select the "Outgoing Server" tab.
    Add a check mark and select as shown in attachment.

    You will need to do this with each account that you will be using.

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    Re: Sending via public wifi (Any)

    Neat.

    The one worry I have with using regular email accounts with wi fi is security. When your sojourn is up (if not daily or hourly in your peregrinations) you might like to change your password(s).

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    Re: Sending via public wifi (Any)

    Too bad!

    I have Charter Pipeline cable, and they do not let me send mail using their standard smtp.charter.net if I am not on my home cable connection. I can collect my mail via POP (pop.charter.net), but I cannot send. I assume they are looking at IP addresses or something.

    My solution for my laptop is to create an account that receives via Charter POP, but then uses a web-based mail service to SEND my email.
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    The only caveat is that you might also need to create a second account for the web-based email that sends and receives via that account. That is because if people Reply to mail from the first account, the reply might go to your web-based mail POP account.

    Now, I think if you modify the "Reply To..." line, this becomes less of an issue -- but people may still copy and paste your address, or 'add sender to address book'. So to be safe, it is best to have both accounts. While this may sound cumbersome and confusing, since Outlook processes everything, it all happens behind the scenes and works fairly seamlessly.

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    Re: Sending via public wifi (Any)

    That is strange, as the wife's daughter has Charter in Central Washington and when she is here in Western Washington she can connect through Comcast and send mail. I know, I had to make the settings that I did in my earlier post. She also said the Charter told her that she MUST use a Charter connection to send mail.

    Have you tried the settings that I showed in the above post?

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    Re: Sending via public wifi (Any)

    Yes. This is what I get if I try that. Could they be using a different port? I guess, but certainly not on my home machine. And they do not seem to want to tell me which port to use...
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    Re: Sending via public wifi (Any)

    A late data point: AT&T Worldnet subscribers can send over other ISPs by both authenticating AND using a secured (SSL) connection. They have helpful help pages on how to set this up -- if you can find them. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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