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    Virtual Machine

    I am considering installing Vista this weekend on a VM. I am currently running XPP SP3 and want to know what are some of the pitfalls that may crop up. I only have one piece of hardware that won't run on Vista, and I can't afford to replace that. It's almost expensive as a gallon of gas ! LOL. A specific question is will my Zone Alarm run on both.
    Or does anyone have anything better to do this with than Microsoft's Virtual Machine
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    Re: Virtual Machine

    Why not Dual Boot?
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    Re: Virtual Machine

    that is an idea, but what are the advantages? I want to be able to switch OS's easily and drag and drop file easliy as well. My iPAQ is not Vista compatible and I sync it with Outlook '07. It wont however use the latest sync (I think it is v6) software.
    I think I have pretty much made up my mind in that I am going to move ahead using Virtual PC. But! I have one last question, and that is can I use an Upgrade version of Vista to do this?
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    Re: Virtual Machine

    I'm gonna throw in a little non-technically supported philosophy here, if you'll bear with me and I hope I don't get too long winded on it. I've been a user of the Microsoft virtual machine software ever since they bought the product and before it was a freebie. I have VMs setup for Win98SE and Win2K that I use occasionally. I'm not convinced that you get a nice clean OS, exactly as you would if you installed it in "regular" mode. It's hard to explain and that's why I said I can't "justify" my opinion with technical backup. There seems to be something lacking in the way a VM recognizes hardware and other peripheral devices but it's not something I can say doesn't work, it's just flaky and sometimes questionable. I'm sorry that I don't know how to put it in any other way. It works, but it leaves me feeling nervous.

    Having said all that, I don't have any idea what you get if you try to install Vista in a VM and I've only encountered one person who's doing so, the guy who's the author of an application I just recently started using, Clavier+.

    Now, on the other hand, as a new dual boot user I'm quite satisfied with that environment and "making" myself get used to rebooting from one OS to the other. It's amazing how spoiled we've all gotten at this level of technology with what we call speed. It only takes a FEW MINUTES to boot the machine from one OS to the other but when you have to do it, it seems like an eternity, we've gotten so spoiled! I readily admit that that's not as nice as an Alt-Tab to a VM OS, but it also ain't bad either! In the past couple of weeks, I am flipping back and forth from one to the other and getting quite used to it.

    Obviously, you'll have to decide what you want to do and I guess if I were in your shoes, I would TRY the upgrade version, using the technique widely described by Brian Livingston (Scott Dunn) in the Windows Secrets newsletter - It's official: upgrade hack included in Vista SP1 - WindowsSecrets.com.

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    Re: Virtual Machine

    One advantage of VM vs Dual booting, is if you are on a network and the other machines that need to access your shared drives and/or printers in the XP world, they still can with VM but not Dual boot unless they go in and reconnect to these devices. Then if you reboot to the other OS they must again go in a reconnect to those devices and they will get real tired of messing with their printers (on your machine).

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    Re: Virtual Machine

    I second the "flaky", it just doesn't feel quite right.

    Despite that, I find VMs invaluable (along with remote desktop), especially for customer support and demos.

    My (work) laptop has clean, optimised VMs for individual product demos to minimise those "that wasn't supposed to happen" moments. It also has "spare" VMs where I can replicate client configurations for development and issue resolution purposes. And if needed, it's easy to give a copy of the VM to someone else to play with. Another benefit is that client confidentiality is simpler to maintain, with their data is on separate VMs.
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    Re: Virtual Machine

    Thanks all I've got some reading to do and decisions to make.
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