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    Update confusion (SP3)

    After installing SP3, I was surprised today to be alerted to several major updates available. I decided to try to "collect" these further updates by downloading them direct from the KB article then install them myself. Maybe not such a great idea, since windows update is still informing me that I need to install them. Any way to rectify this? ... preferably a better way than to set "don't inform me about this update again".

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    Re: Update confusion (SP3)

    Remember that SP3 was released a couple of months ago and RTM'd long before that. Each month there have been updates since the release of SP3 <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Update confusion (SP3)

    I was under the (false?) impression that SP3 represented the end to XP updates. Regardless, I'd like to know how to effectively inform whatever it is in windows update, that I'm already uptodate.

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    Re: Update confusion (SP3)

    Also it is Microsoft Updates which includes updates for Office and other products.

    That was the end of development NOT support. The support will include security issues for some time yet.

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    Re: Update confusion (SP3)

    After you manually install the updates try forcing Windows Update or Microsoft Update to re-scan your PC.

    See Help and Support - Support Lifecycle for more information and links about product support.

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    Re: Update confusion (SP3)

    I tried this Joe. Windows update site says:

    High-priority updates
    No high-priority updates for your computer are available. To select other updates, use the options to the left.

    But I keep getting the Automatic Updates message below.

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    Re: Update confusion (SP3)

    The SP3 should include security updates from the Tuesday April update round. Perhaps you are seeing May security or other updates, if using WU, or other products if using MU. (Or AU.)

    In this list of fixes included in XP SP3 you will find, among other, the IE cumulative (KB947864) from April, the GDI (KB948590) from April, the VBScript/JScript (KB944338) from April, the DNS client (KB945553) from April and the Windows Kernel (KB941693) from April.

    So I wouldn't say there was a long gap between some updates and SP3 RTM (As Dave says "... SP3 was released a couple of months ago and RTM'd long before that ...", I don't agree.); Windows XP SP3 was RTM 21 April 2008. The April *security* updates went out 8 April 2008. True, many of them were finalized in February and March before the April release, but at the end of April SP3 pretty much included what had been released until then (security and stability updates and others such as WPA2 or minor additions).

    I think we will see security updates for Windows XP for years to come.

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    Re: Update confusion (SP3)

    Thanks Argus. You've bumped me into realizing why these updates actually appeared in the first place. I did for my clean install in this order:
    1. SP2
    2. SP3
    3. IE7
    4. WMP 11

    Maybe this wasn't so clever, but now that shouldn't be an issue. As I said, I have already installed the items shown in Automatic Updates. And now the Windows Update site recognizes that too. <img src=/S/confused.gif border=0 alt=confused width=15 height=20>

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    Re: Update confusion (SP3)

    Seeing you last post:
    That could be due to in what order you installed things. If you installed for instance IE7 after Windows XP SP3 (you may have read all that about how SP3 updates IE), you will need to update IE with the latest cumulative update.

    SP3 includes updates for both IE6 and IE7. If you update an installation that already has IE7 you will not be able to uninstall it after SP3 update (a situation similar to not being able to uninstall IE6 on an SP2 system, though it upset some people).

    But if you did a clean install (MSFT doesn't support slipstreaming standalone IE to the install media), then updated to SP3 and installed IE7 you would be offered an update to IE7, as I understand it.

    But it could also be some glitch in the AU, that will go away efter some time, don't know so much about your installation.

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    Re: Update confusion (SP3)

    <img src=/S/hello.gif border=0 alt=hello width=25 height=29>, we (or I, am cross-posting),

    I wouldn't say it wasn't so clever, seems quite normal (though, SP3 should be able to install on SP1, but there has been some discussion, on the other hand I, as many, have XP Gold as original install media [plus SP CDs], so probably are going to slipstream SP3 into a SP2 slipstream CD); IE7 and WMP 11 are updates "outside" the SP level. Now you have the opportunity to uninstall them if you would like (I agree there isn't much idea/need to do it, since both are secure and stable, but anyhow).

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    Re: Update confusion (SP3)

    Well, yesterday's autoupdate was reminding me of only one item I'd manually installed, and today's had none. Whatever the mechanism is for detection, it must have "caught up" without my intervention... although it did take a few days/ connections to do it.

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