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    The History of Firefox in Screenshots (v1- v3)

    Hello, I just came across this lifehacker page. I don't remember seeing the link. It has screenshots of the various versions and their changes. I definitely prefer the look of the first Firefox and I'm not so sure I want Firefox to have hooks into all my applications as seems to be the case with the latest version. Seems like this increases the potential for abuse and security problems. Still, I've not plans to go back to Internet Explorer, I do wonder about Opera, though.

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    Re: The History of Firefox in Screenshots (v1- v3)

    You can start the comparison here. I ran across this article earlier today and although the browsers were compared on Linux (the article is on linux.com), the features are the same as if on Windows. I got a huge chuckle at the comments at the end of the article. I happen to like Opera and have used it for 2 or so years now. I am NOT a power user.....I just liked it because nobody or thing was bothering or trying to hijack it and it was doing so with little or no fanfare.
    One thing lacking here at Woody's however........you can not attach anything to a message when using Opera. You must be using a Mozilla 4+ compatible browser to do this. So I'll switch to IE for that.
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    Re: The History of Firefox in Screenshots (v1- v3)

    And MY question would be: do the Admins know of this problem and/or is there something that can be done about it?

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    Re: The History of Firefox in Screenshots (v1- v3)

    <P ID="edit" class=small>(Edited by jscher2000 on 23-Jun-08 17:42. Got around to testing Opera.)</P>
    <hr>One thing lacking here at Woody's however........you can not attach anything to a message when using Opera. You must be using a Mozilla 4+ compatible browser to do this.<hr>
    Are you saying the Lounge will not accept uploads from Opera? That's strange. I'll have to play with it some time.


    <img src=/w3timages/blackline.gif width=33% height=2><img src=/w3timages/blackline.gif width=33% height=2>


    Added: It's true. Opera doesn't follow the convention of sending Mozilla compatibility information. Instead, it identifies quite tersely as: Opera/9.27 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en). (This is with version 9.27 on Windows XP.)

    For better results with the Lounge, but uncertain results on other sites, you can spoof a Mozilla-compatible version string as follows:
    1. <LI>Open opera:config from the address bar.
      <LI>In the box at the top, type <code>agent</code> to filter the list.
      <LI>Change the default value of Spoof UserAgent ID from 1 to 2 and click Save. You can now close this tab.
    Opera now will send a user agent string in this format: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en; rv:1.8.0) Gecko/20060728 Firefox/1.5.0 Opera 9.27.

    I will be installing version 9.50 at some point and perhaps it now uses a later version of Gecko/Firefox.

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    Re: The History of Firefox in Screenshots (v1- v3)

    Hi Jefferson,
    With Opera, the option to attach is not even present until you preview the post and then in place of the controls within the attachment space is this complete message:
    <hr>Although file attachments are allowed, you must be using a Mozilla 4+ compatible browser for this feature.<hr>

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    Re: The History of Firefox in Screenshots (v1- v3)

    Issues with Opera have been known since early 2002 when Ian did some testing and it was decided then that 'supported browsers' would be IE and Netscape - since updated to IE and Firefox.

    Other than Jefferson's suggestion above, I don't know of any workaround - we certainly have no plans to change the Lounge software to accommodate Opera specifically.

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    Re: The History of Firefox in Screenshots (v1- v3)

    There is an easier workround than Jefferson's one. While you are at www.wopr.com, in Opera, go to Tools -> Quick Preferences -> Edit site preferences. Then on the Network tab choose "Mask as Firefox" or "Mask as Internet Explorer" and all will be well. (See screenshot, posted here using Opera, which proves it works!)

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    Re: The History of Firefox in Screenshots (v1- v3)

    Excellent!

    Many thanks for posting this <img src=/S/thumbup.gif border=0 alt=thumbup width=15 height=15>

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    Re: The History of Firefox in Screenshots (v1- v3)

    Thanks from me too!I have updated <!post=Optimal Browser Settings for Using these Boards,1917>Optimal Browser Settings for Using these Boards<!/post> with your solution.

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    Re: The History of Firefox in Screenshots (v1- v3)

    Thanks Ian.
    Works a treat. I missed that under <Quick Preferences>.
    Playing around a bit I noticed that if I use:
    Identify As Firefox or Internet Explorer - I can do the attachments and <Who's Online> shows me as using Opera
    Mask As Firefox or Internet Explorer - I can do the attachments and <Who's Online> shows me as using FF2 or IE6 respectively.
    <img src=/S/cool.gif border=0 alt=cool width=15 height=15> - Thanks again.
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    Re: The History of Firefox in Screenshots (v1- v3)

    And thanks to you, I have learned something about the difference between Identify as and Mask as. I'll change to Identify as, so as to show that I'm really an Opera user.

    Ian

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    Re: The History of Firefox in Screenshots (v1- v3)

    Hans

    In view of the distinction pointed out in <post:=717,687>post 717,687</post:> you might like to uodate the advice again to say that "Identify as Firefox" or "Identify as Internet Explorer" is suffiicient, since that then still shows you as an Opera user, but allows attachments.

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    Re: The History of Firefox in Screenshots (v1- v3)

    OK, done. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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