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    Adobe Illustrator to MS Word

    I am new to Adobe Illustrator (CS3). I open an AI file, and crop a portion of it. I can't winkle out how to get that image portion into a MS Word document. Whatever I try ends up as a light blue box. This includes a straight Copy & Paste, Paste Special > Windows Metafile, and other options. How should I be doing this? AI's Help, didn't. Thanks in advance for any hints!

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    Re: Adobe Illustrator to MS Word

    I am not sure what you are trying to do, but the crop tool in Illustrator is used to define areas that the printed version of the document will be cropped to. If you use the crop area tool and drag an area over some portion of the illustration you can then click on File, Print, Setup, and then in the Crop Artwork To box select crop area. The preview in the bottom left of the window will show the cropped portion of the illustration that will be printed. In summary, the crop tool is a print preparation tool.

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    Re: Adobe Illustrator to MS Word

    I don't use Illustrator but if push comes to shove, you should be able to take a screen shot (Alt+PrintScreen) and then crop that in an image editing application.

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    Re: Adobe Illustrator to MS Word

    Paul, what I am trying to do is to get a portion of an AI image pasted into my Word document. If the Crop Tool is only a print preparation tool, what steps within AI should I take to get a portion of an AI image to the Clipboard, so I can Paste Special > Windows Metafile (or something) in Word? Or what steps within AI should I take to get a portion of an AI image saved as a file that I can Insert > Picture > From File in Word? The picture needs either to be formatted to a certain size in AI, or hold up to reformatting its size in Word.

    I would like to accomplish this from within AI if possible, rather than Saving the image as some other file format, invoking some other image editing software, opening my new file, cropping it there, and then going to Word. The fewer steps and applications the better, on the underpowered CPU with limited applications that I have to live with. Thanks for any help.

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    Re: Adobe Illustrator to MS Word

    Ok, now I know what you are trying to do. You are working with two handicaps the first one is running a program like illustrator on an underpowered computer. The second is that you are new to that program so trying to get a subset of your image is more complicated in a vector-based application than it is in a raster format application. So we will not go there.

    Even though you said you do not want to do this, my best suggestion is to do the following while in Illustrator. Click on file and then on "Save for Microsoft Office" (this is Adobe's preferred route). This will create a PNG file which will preserve transparency if you have any. Then open Word and click on Insert, Picture, From File and select the PNG file you just saved from Illustrator. This will put the entire image in your document. Next right click on the image and choose Format Picture and in the resulting window specify the top, bottom, left and right crop positions. You do this blind so it may take several tries.

    A somewhat better way, but perhaps not for you, is to just open up the PNG image in a good small photo editing program like IrfanView (Free) and do a quick crop and save it to be placed in your Word document. Or, as Jeff suggested, take a screen shot of the area of the illustration you are interested in and save that for placement in Word.

    Hope this helps

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    Re: Adobe Illustrator to MS Word

    I'm not familiar with Illustrator, but in Photoshop & Photoshop Elements, if you select an area of an image and then go to Edit>Copy, that places the selected area on the clipboard and you can then paste it into a Word document.
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    Re: Adobe Illustrator to MS Word

    Doc,
    While there are ways to isolate areas of an illustration, there is no comparable-to-Photoshop selection tool in Illustrator. I believe that is pretty much what Sundog attempted to do with the crop tool. An equivalent statement is that in Illustrator there is no Photoshop-comparable crop tool. One can use clipping masks and clipping mask layers to reveal parts of an illustration and they can be copied and pasted but you get the entire illustration anyway with the uninteresting area masked so that in Word you probably would still do a crop to free up all that white space. If one is brand new to Illustrator you may stumble doing the clipping mask thing so it is easier to just export the whole thing as a raster image anyway.

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    Re: Adobe Illustrator to MS Word

    Paul,

    Thanks for that info. I guess I'd have to play with it to see which I like better. On first blush, the old way seems to be simpler. But as I said, I'd have to play around a bit before making any rash statements. <img src=/S/noevil.gif border=0 alt=noevil width=25 height=17>
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    Re: Adobe Illustrator to MS Word

    Doc,
    I don't think it is so much of an old vs New way issue, rather it is vector vs raster way of working and the consequences that result from that difference. In a raster image there is no relationship between pixels so you can select and eliminate or change them at will. There is an artistic relationship between the pixels in a raster image, but no dependency or mathematical relationship to other pixels. In a vector image, however, everything is mathematical paths, lines and fills. If you say you want to do an arbitrary crop on a vector image, then you would some how have to determine what happens to those paths at the boundaries, what do you do about gradient fills or blends and a bunch of other stuff. SO the easy thing is to keep all the underlying structure and do a visual mask. Most of Illustrator output is for print media and this is no problem.

    I failed to mention previously another option. Modern versions of Illustrator have a "save for the web" feature. This lets you save your illustration as one of several raster file formats, BUT it also comes along with a Slice tool. This lets you slice your image into rectangles of various (arbitrary) sizes that fill the image space. You get one sub image for each rectangle. So if one of those rectangles is set to be the crop size you want , you get your cropped image ready to be used in a document or on the web. The utility of the slice tool is to let one optimize compression. Since each rectangle can be optimized separately you can choose different compression techniques for blank areas, text, photos, gradients....etc.

    Sundog might want to explore this option, but it is still easier to do what I previously recommended.

    Paul

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