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    File-Moving Permission? (Home Premium)

    If I try to drag a file from one folder to another, or cut / paste, it won't let me and says I need perm,ission.

    Do I have to be logged in as Supervisor to move a file??

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    Re: File-Moving Permission? (Home Premium)

    "Do I have to be logged in as Supervisor to move a file??"

    Depends on which file in which path to what path. You need to have write permissions on BOTH paths (from/To) to do a move.

    Remember that one can not move from one "User" path to another "User" path. One needs to use the "Public" folder.

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    Re: File-Moving Permission? (Home Premium)

    Dave:

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    Remember that one can not move from one "User" path to another "User" path. One needs to use the "Public" folder.
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    Oh cripes...here I/we/IT go/goes again!

    I am the ONLY user. There's just me (with Admin privileges) and the Administrator.

    So how do I "fix" (read that "get around") this?

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    Re: File-Moving Permission? (Home Premium)

    If you are the ONLY user how and why does one need to move files from one user to another?

    Move a copy to the Public folder, log out, then log in as the other user and copy it to the new user's folder.

    Can you post a screen shot of the User Account windows that shows ALL of the user account(s)?

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    Re: File-Moving Permission? (Home Premium)

    Chuck, you've gotta tell us a bit more about what you're trying to move and the from and to folders. In Vista, dammit MS, there are restrictions on LOTS of files and folders, even if (like ME too) you're the only user.

    For Dave: He didn't say a different user, Dave!

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    Re: File-Moving Permission? (Home Premium)

    Dave/Al:

    I have a file -- KIS "Rules for APPS.txt" -- that is in fact a pasted copy of a post on the Kaspersky boards about how to set rules for apps and the firewall.

    I created a new text file, and pasted the copied text into the file.

    THEN, I went to move the text file from my desktop to the "C:Program FilesKaspersky LabKaspersky Internet SecurityDoc" folder...and it won't.

    All I get is the pic below...and excuse me, but this is the sort of thing about Vista that just P----- me off to no end.-- And no, it's not write-protected, I checked.

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    Re: File-Moving Permission? (Home Premium)

    Guys:

    And just so you don't have to ask, here's the Explorer error, same file, same attempt.

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    Re: File-Moving Permission? (Home Premium)

    Well, we are back to, you can not write to the "Programs" folder. You must use the tools of the "installer" for this program. This again is part of the protection to prevent unauthorized use of scripts to make changes to the OS and programs.


    <hr>pasted copy of a post on the Kaspersky boards about how to set rules for apps and the firewall<hr>

    BUT, are these instructions for Vista, if so please post a link to these instructions?

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    Re: File-Moving Permission? (Home Premium)

    Chuck,
    It looks like you are getting the error message from the file manager program "Total Commander", NOT from Vista itself.

    First of all, are you using the latest version 7.03 for Vista?

    Second, maybe you should check in with the author of TC and pose this problem?

    Or check their webpage at GHISLER
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    Re: File-Moving Permission? (Home Premium)

    Bob:

    Note the message below your post, with the Explorer attempt attached.

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    Re: File-Moving Permission? (Home Premium)

    Dave:

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    Well, we are back to, you can not write to the "Programs" folder
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    I must've fallen asleep, 'cause I didn't know we were there in the first place. My bad.

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    You must use the tools of the "installer" for this program. This again is part of the protection to prevent unauthorized use of scripts to make changes to the OS and programs.
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    So how, and from where do I get these tools/rights?

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    Re: File-Moving Permission? (Home Premium)

    Oh boy... Chuck, why in the <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0> are you trying to store a "data" file, created by YOU, in the Program Files folder? It seems to me you would have a DATA storage place to put such "tips and tricks" files that you create. I have a folder on my drive called Data Store, expressly so that I DO NOT have to use any MS created folders such as My Documents and all that drivel. The <img src=/w3timages/censored.gif alt=censored border=0> Program Files folder is for programs, NOT for you and I to store data in.

    None of us may like the motivation and reasons that Microsoft used when designing Vista to "protect us from ourselves" but we've either got to learn to live with them or stick with XP for however long it's around.

    You're shooting yourself in the foot, Chuck and just making yourself angry over something that you can't control. Sorry to be so blunt...

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    Re: File-Moving Permission? (Home Premium)

    Doc:

    The first part of your query is simple:

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    Chuck, why in the censored are you trying to store a "data" file, created by YOU, in the Program Files folder?
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    'Cause that's where the program -- and it's docs, NOT just programs -- are stored. This is a folder not created at all by MS, but rather by KIS (Kaspersky Internet Security). And this is a key operation to the firewall -- customizing the way the firewall treats certain programs. And, like y'all at WOPR, I don't think they'd want me coming back and asking again every time I need to perform this and "forget". My storage practices usually fall short of my being able to lay my hands quickly on "stuff" unless I keep it with the original (program).

    Sort of like setting Outlook to store responses with the original messages.

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    None of us may like the motivation and reasons that Microsoft used when designing Vista to "protect us from ourselves" but we've either got to learn to live with them or stick with XP for however long it's around.
    <<

    Glad I'm not alone.

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    You're shooting yourself in the foot, Chuck and just making yourself angry over something that you can't control. Sorry to be so blunt...
    <<

    I don't mind blunt at all Al. It saves time and energy in most cases. I would (gladly) go back to XP if, first, it were going to be around, which it is not, and therefore software will be designed with THAT in mind, and secondly, because HP, in their wisdom, built the recovery process right in the BIOS, so, even if I go back to XP, my BIOS will think it's Vista -- the one thing I've found about this machine that I'd rather not have.

    And there has to be a way to set yourself up as the "almighty" on a particular machine. Call it "Trusted Installer" or whatever, there's way. Then I could control it.

    And it wouldn't be applicable for just now, but, I'd wager, several issues going forward.

    If it were MS setting it up, they could even (have) done so in such a way that, at the beginning of any such "intrusion", the user would be forced to image the Windows partition.

    You don't swear, do ya Doc?

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    Re: File-Moving Permission? (Home Premium)

    The only way to run with 'all' permissions is to logon as the builtin administrator. That is NOT a good practice. If a program is really written for Vista it will use the "ProgramData" folder and not "Program File" for user data. Perhpas you should contact Kaspersky.

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    Re: File-Moving Permission? (Home Premium)

    Joe:

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    If a program is really written for Vista it will use the "ProgramData" folder and not "Program File" for user data. Perhpas you should contact Kaspersky.
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    I've got a BUNCH of Microsoft programs in the Program Files folder:

    Microsoft ActiveSync
    Microsoft CAPICOM 2.1.0.2
    Microsoft Games
    Microsoft IntelliPoint
    Microsoft IntelliType Pro
    Microsoft Office
    Microsoft Silverlight
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Works
    Microsoft.NET

    Some you may say came before Vista...but all?

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