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    Windows Desktop Search

    I am starting a new topic, previous posts appear in General Windows Solutions under System File Checker and Other Software under Defrag, subjects that do not apply to WDS.

    I have Search Assistant back by going to johnsadventures.com and finding "How To Default To Search Companion With Windows Desktop Search 3". It supplied instructions to make changes in the Registry.

    This is what it said to do:Go to HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindows Desktop SearchDS. Double-click on "ShowStartSearchBand" and set the value to '0'. Close and you're done, the next time you click 'Search' in explorer, the old, reliable search companion will appear.

    To make double sure that this worked I rebooted and then clicked Search, lo and behold, there was Rover.

    I have since searched the registry for WDS that had not been there before I installed it. In HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindows I found
    Windows Desktop Search. In the right-hand pane I clicked Modify Default and Value Name and Value Data had no entry, both windows were blank.

    My question is: If I delete WDS in the registry will that remove it from my system? It's still not listed in Add/Remove or in my 3rd party uninstaller.
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    Re: Windows Desktop Search

    Gloria,

    Macropod mentioned the solution that has solved your problem in <post:=736,601>post 736,601</post:> three days ago, even before DocWatson pointed out the JohnsAdventures site two days ago. <img src=/S/igiveup.gif border=0 alt=igiveup width=31 height=23>

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    Re: Windows Desktop Search

    I tried macropod's suggestion, only he didn't say what to do after I reached wdsShell.dll, so I just backed out of the registry and went on to something else.

    I never saw Doc's post concerning JohnsAdventures, if I had I could have saved days of looking for fixes. I always try everything that's sent to me, and try to answer every post promptly. Like I posted recently, I'm going back to every post sent and trying them again,they may work now that WDS's installed properly.

    Now that Search Companion's being used by default, does that mean if I finally find a way to removed WDS, Search Companion would be removed too?

    I hope this clears up any misunderstanding.

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    Re: Windows Desktop Search

    It would help if you read carefully. You mentioned that the following steps brought Rover back:
    <hr>... Go to HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftWindows Desktop SearchDS. Double-click on "ShowStartSearchBand" and set the value to '0'. Close and you're done ...<hr>
    In the post I referred to, macropod wrote
    <hr>... going to Start|Run and entering:
    RegEdit
    then search for:
    HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareMicrosoftWindows Desktop SearchDS
    When you've found this, double-click on 'ShowStartSearchBand' and set the value to '0'. Then exit Regedit ...<hr>
    Remarkably similar, isn't it?

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    Re: Windows Desktop Search

    >I never saw Doc's post concerning JohnsAdventures, if I had I could have saved days of looking for fixes. I always try everything that's sent to me, and try to answer every post promptly.

    Gloria.... take a look at your <post:=736,901>post 736,901</post:> in response to my post with the link to John's Adventure.

    Maybe you shouldn't have slept on it (the information, not the post). <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Windows Desktop Search

    I print and read every post sent to me, the one you've referred to, I've never seen. I don't know what happened but that's at least 2 posts I've not received. I'll have to start going to the Lounge and stop relying of email messages. If you want me to swear that I never saw that post, I will.

    I'll say one more time that if I had seen that suggestion I would have done it. What would be the use of asking for help and then not doing what's suggested?

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    Re: Windows Desktop Search

    Dear Doc,
    I looked at the referred to post and I'm so ashamed, I did see that one and it was printed and added to the list of fixes to try. When you posted your suggestion to look at it, I told the truth, I had see it before you sent me there, I just hadn't got around to using it.

    Does anyone know how to contact those guys in the white coats that take people away and put them in rooms with bars and guards?

    Please forgive me for being stupid and careless. I tried so many things that did not work and all because WDS wasn't installed and never got around to using Johns Adventure. I will review every post in here on the subject that contains a possible fix and follow the suggestions and hope that one of them works now.

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    Re: Windows Desktop Search

    When you started these threads about missing animated screen character in Windows Search Companion, it would have helped if information were given from the start that you had installed a Windows "add-on" such as Windows Search.

    You later mentioned this and that you had removed some files etc. Further, you couldn’t find an option to uninstall it. <post:=736,733>post 736,733</post:> At this point some files maybe were missing (but you shouldn't have looked at Windows/$NTServicePackUninstall$ anyway).

    You said you couldn't find it in Add or Remove Programs in CP, or find the uninstaller package in the Windows $NtUninstall-branches, because you tried to locate %SystemRoot%. <post:=736,909>post 736,909</post:> You then (re)installed KB940157 (a.k.a. Windows Search 4.0), to use it to either: reach alternative "Click here to use Search Companion" or get a possibility to uninstall it, but you couldn't find a uninstall entry or package this time either.

    It can be a help to know that %SystemRoot% is an environment variable that points to the Windows folder, i.e. it's possible to use (as a substitute) in commands etc. as you in fact mentioned you did in your first <post:=736,584>post 736,584</post:>. But to look for a folder named %SystemRoot% in Explorer is futile.

    After that you "unregistered" a dll (lost some functionality), and then it seems you reinstalled KB940157 again, <post:=737,235>post 737,235</post:> and got the alternative Search Companion back. And now in this thread used a registry edit (mentioned before) to change default search.

    It seems you would like to uninstall Windows Search ..., correct?

    <!post="If I delete WDS in the registry will that remove it from my system?",737239>"If I delete WDS in the registry will that remove it from my system?"<!/post>

    No.

    It is important that you look carefully and read carefully. See my next post.

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    Re: Windows Desktop Search

    To uninstall "Windows Search 4.0 KB940157" (Forget about the 3rd party uninstaller for now.):
    1. <LI>First look in the list at: Add or Remove Programs in Control Panel and perhaps check the box Show updates at the top of the list. Look for Windows Search 4.0 or KB940157. If it is there, run uninstall, if not possible move on to next.
      <LI>Use Windows Explorer (make sure you can view hidden files and folders) and locate the folder $NtUninstallKB940157$ under the Windows folder, that is:

      C:Windows$NtUninstallKB940157$

      If found, open the spuninst folder and locate a file spuninst.exe and run it. This is an alternative to Add or Remove Programs; a manual uninstall of an update. Should look like this:

      C:Windows$NtUninstallKB940157$spuninstspuninst.exe
    IF "Windows Search 4.0 KB940157" isn't present in the Add or Remove Programs list or not possible to uninstall, and, IF you do not find the uninstall package or not possible to uninstall, you should reinstall the KB940157 once more until you can use either alternative to remove it. But before you reinstall you have to remove two keys in the registry (otherwise it will not reinstall correctly).

    If you have any questions about editing the registry (and you need this step), come back before you start editing. You could perhaps do a backup of the keys (right-click them and export) or create a Restore Point (if SR works ...).
    <UL><LI>Start the Registry editor (run regedit.exe)
    <LI>Locate the following key:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftUpdatesWindows XPSP3KB940157
    right-click it in the left hand pane and delete it (only that key).
    <LI>Next locate this key:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentV ersionUninstallKB940157
    right-click it in the left hand pane and delete it (only that key).
    <LI>Close the Registry editor.
    <LI>Reinstall "Windows Search 4.0 KB940157".
    <LI>Go back to step 1 and 2 above; look in Add or Remove Programs in Control Panel, or, locate the uninstall package for that update in the $NtUninstall-branch.[/list]Rinse and repeat.

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    Re: Windows Desktop Search

    How do you know that Windows Search is an add-on? If it is, I certainly didn't know it. I was under the impression that it was a program. The download site didn't mention it as being an add-on.

    Yes, I did all of those things and if I can find further information on the removal, I'll be doing that too. I now have a list of things to try, both from here, other forums and using Google. I will try them, one by one, until I get this thing removed.

    I await your next post.

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    Re: Windows Desktop Search

    Thank you Argus, this goes to the top of my list of things to do. I certainly will post back and give you the results.

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    Re: Windows Desktop Search

    It is an add-on because it was not part of the orginal release of Windows XP. It is a series of modules some of which are independent programs and others which work in concert with the operating system and other applications. In addition to new functionality it contains enhancements to indexing and searching. I'd suggest that you not uninstall it. Instead, if you wish to use the search companion see <post:=737,262>post 737,262</post:>.

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    Re: Windows Desktop Search

    WDS was installed accidentally, it's not something I want nor need. I remove everything that's not needed nor used, this includes WDS.But, I thank you for clearing up the add-on question.

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    Re: Windows Desktop Search

    Haven't had time to get on here lately. When I did though I saw this post. Great! Now Rover is back! I'm giving Rover a new chew toy!
    Thanks John
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    Re: Windows Desktop Search

    I finally got it done. but another problem has replaced it.

    I first removed Windows Search 4.0 KB940157, then installed it again. Found It in Add/Remove and removed it from there. I was instructed to restart computer to complete the uninstall. Went back to Search and the plain vanilla search program appeared..Search Companion had disappeared.

    Now I have a new problem, how to get Search Companion back, can you help me with this one?

    Thank you for your clear instructions, they worked like a charm.

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