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    'This point forward' suggests what? (Word 2000)

    For purposes of Page Setup, "This point forward" is poorly defined in MS Word; a quick web and forum search for "This point forward" yields, amongst others, "Lost My marbles?".

    "Current" suggests, "this section only; only one change can ever be effected, and it affects the entire current section"
    "All" suggests "every available section; there may be as many changes as there are sections" (some sections destined for Portrait may already be in portrait; they get set correctly, but to the user they appear to be unchanged)
    "This point forward" suggests what?

    Interpretation 1: This section ("Current") and all succeeding sections to the end of the document (prompts the question "Why can't we have This Point Backwards"?)
    Interpretation 2: Insert a section break Right Here, and for the new section, and all succeeding sections
    Interpretation 3: Insert a section break Right Here, and for the new section only (i.e. spawn a fresh "Current")

    It gets worse (if you have enough money ...) because end-users have a sloppy habit of selecting a non-zero length of text, i.e. Click-and-drag and then run the command.
    We have to establish if "This point" means
    Interpretation A: Using the start point of the selection
    Interpretation B: Using the end point of the selection (we are saying "Forwards, after all ...)
    Interpretation C: Using the selection as a definition of the new section (i.e. insert TWO section breaks, one at selection.Start and one at selection.End

    I suspect that the poor documentation on this suggests that the design is poorly thought-out.

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    Re: 'This point forward' suggests what? (Word 2000)

    Is this a question, a poll, or the beginning of a thread of discovery which should not be prematurely interrupted? <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15>

    (If relevant, I guess Interpretation 2 + A or 2 + C, and look forward to the lab results.)

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    Re: 'This point forward' suggests what? (Word 2000

    > Is this a question, a poll, or the beginning of a thread of discovery which should not be prematurely interrupted?
    Yes. <span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #FFFF00; font-weight: bold"> <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15> <img src=/S/evilgrin.gif border=0 alt=evilgrin width=15 height=15> </span hide>

    I couldn't find any philosophical discussion on this point, so thought to add one.
    In all my hair-tearing years of using Microsoft Word, I'd never given this much thought until this past weekend.

    I'm usually creating a document and get to the point where I think "A Landscape-mode Table would be nice", so choose Landscape, This Point Forward, Insert my Table, and then, at the point just past the table I think "I'd better get back to writing in text, Portrait mode, This Point forward, dum-de-dum.. ".

    That is, I've been using Page Layout in a serial fashion, section by section, as I create the initial version of the document.

    Now I have a FrameMaker client who wants Word users to use, as much as possible, the same habits as they can/should in FrameMaker.
    Client wants macros to institute Page Setup. That forced me to think in a non-serial fashion, and to think about the definition of "This Point", especially if the selection isn't a point. Forced me too to ponder whether "This Point Forward" really ought to clobber all the carefully-set up layouts in every following section.

    > (If relevant, I guess Interpretation 2 + A or 2 + C, and look forward to the lab results.)
    Lab results will be forthcoming from the client, usually in terms of how much they are prepared to pay for sophistication.

    I can dream up situations for all interpretations, backwards as well as forwards; even "Make these changes (page setup Margins) for all sections bearing the same characteristic margins as THIS section". Thus, I wish I'd not set some of my sections to 1/2-inch margins. I'd like to set all the 1/2-inch margins to be one inch.

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