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    PDFCreator document view settings

    Sometimes one would like a certain view when the PDF file is opened. Nothing odd, full screen or such, only a certain zoom/magnification. With some other program I have been able to do this.

    The default with PDFCreator is, I think, "Fit Width view", i.e. the whole width of the page fills the screen (similar to using Ctrl+2 in Adobe Reader), and important, as it is going to show later, the view starts at the top of the page, not where the text starts.

    What I would like is: 100 %, real size, start at the top of page, and nothing else changed, all the usual toolbars should be left. Is this possible?

    A quick search the other day told me to use "Action before saving" and one of the scripts included with the program. Nifty. Without any changes, running the “AddPDFDocview” script as an action before saving resulted in whole page visible (approx. 66-67 %) and no toolbars. Oh dear.

    Now, the author of the program did say "use /FitB instead /Fit" as response to that question. Where? Aha, inside the script (these clever open source script gurus isn’t exactly talkative. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> It could perhaps been a program parameter in the same dialog box, what do I know ...).

    <pre>f.WriteLine "[ /PageMode /UseNone /Page 1 /View [/FitB] /DOCVIEW pdfmark"</pre>


    OK "FitB" changes output to 100 %. But some problems are still left. Let’s start with the “no toolbar thing”. Odd to have it disabled as default in the script; I found the following two lines and comment out ( ' ) the whole second one, since I did not know if it would take “false” etc.

    <pre>' Define the viewer preferences (HideToolbar, HideMenubar, HideWindowUI, FitWindow, _
    CenterWindow, NonFullScreenPageMode, DisplayDocTitle, Direction (L2R, R2L))</pre>

    <pre>' f.writeline "[ {Catalog} << /ViewerPreferences << /HideToolbar true _
    /HideWindowUI true /HideMenubar true >> >> /PUT pdfmark"</pre>


    That worked, now I am close to what I want. All toolbars are in place (to not confuse the recipient of the file), the view is 100 %, BUT the “FitB” start the view at the first text on the page, the view does not start at the top of the page. Could it be that hard to get it to start at the top and still get 100 % (which is why I’m using the script in the first place)? <img src=/S/help.gif border=0 alt=help width=23 height=15>

    I know very little about the PDF reference commands etc. There are some others: Fit, FitB, FitBH, FitV, FitH, but when I had to finish that doc. the other day I didn’t want to play peekaboo with one gazillion permutations of the settings <img src=/S/mad.gif border=0 alt=mad width=15 height=15> since I had to get it done.

    The /UseNone above means no bookmarks nor thumbnail images visible which is OK and default, the other ones I don’t know (well /Page 1 means it should start on that page obviously). Perhaps one should use some “Fit” with a range like “0,0” to start at the top, but it seems odd, since it is so common to start at the top.

    It's possible that "Fit" shouldn't be used to set magnification since we all have different sized monitors, but what to use instead? I checked some of the "Fit" settings but they change the "magnification", example for FitBH it says: fits the width of the "bounding box" into the window; I don't get 100 % and start at top.

    I can add the PDFCreator vbs script if someone would like to take a look at it.

    Yes, I could perhaps create an account (adding to ever increasing account group) at pdfforge.org or even SourceForge.net but they don't seem to be so active, and surely this must be a simple, common issue and we have some PDFCreator users in The Lounge.

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    Re: PDFCreator document view settings

    To perhaps add some elucidation to my question.
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    Re: PDFCreator document view settings

    Not sure I follow your question completely, but in the SourceForge PDFCreator Options menus, under Save, there is a Remove Leading and Trailing Spaces option - does unchecking it/clearing the tickmark help with what you want?
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    Re: PDFCreator document view settings

    John,
    Thanks for your reply. No, as I understand it, that is to remove prefix and suffix blank spaces in the filename when PDFCreator puts together a filename, which it does by using the Source file name.

    I think my added picture describes the situation very well. With my crippled English it is hard to describe exactly what I mean (although there are some who are supposed to be coming from an English speaking country that have similar problems, I've seen <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>).

    Some of the values "Fit", "FitB" etc talks about a "bounding box", I have no clue whatsoever, and have not tried to search for the meaning, but a guess could be that it's the area that holds text, as compared to the whole document; its limits are the edges of the "paper".

    As my picture shows, with settings from post #1, AR opens it and start showing not at the top, but where the text starts. The picture explains it.

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    Re: PDFCreator document view settings

    My question for help is very simple. My first post was a bit long, but I also wanted to provide some information that I had already found and which could perhaps be useful to someone else.

    It isn't that I have been digging into some obscure settings in Adobe Reader (AR) and found something I would like to try. I even didn't know that there was a setting in AR for "default view" when you open a file, but of course as I thought about it, there must at least be some settings in those +200 MB, why not one as important as default view, since it is a reader program after all.

    For most people using AR this setting is left in the default value, Auto, thus I can expect that most recipients of a file have it like that.

    When you open a PDF file, it may be a user manual for you new mobile phone or an article in Journal of ... Research etc. most people find that it opens as the creator wanted (or in lack of "wants", happened to be create it due to no knowledge), since the setting is in Auto. Then it's a completely different matter that when you and I read that manual we zoom in or out etc. later on.

    With PDFCreator, as I described, if you do nothing (and there sure isn't easy to do something, some mentioned above, that is my question) you get a file which somewhere inside has the info. "fit width". And when such a file comes to a PC with a user who hasn't changed the little setting (which is perfectly OK to leave in Auto) it opens and fills the screen.

    Now, there is another variable in the equation; people have different screen sizes, some users have mega-screens. For small documents, letters etc. it looks silly to get them in size of 2-3 square feet.

    Enter: view settings when creating.

    Anyone with PDFCreator can make test files with and without using the “AddPDFDocview” script (with its default values) to get some idea about the view as described in my first post.

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    Re: PDFCreator document view settings

    BTW
    I did post a question in pdfforge.org help forum 23 hours after my first post here.

    But the universe wouldn't be in balance if I get help with a problem it seems. Give me 1000 general Windows questions (or 500 Office) and I could probably answer 995 directly or with little search. But when I stumble on something it seems hopeless to find a solution or something, at least it feels like.

    Of course there were no replies, apart from me talking to myself.

    I know that PDFCreator is more or less a one-man-band, thesmilyface, a.k.a. Frank Heindörfer, but there seems to be some really advanced users.

    It was almost the same when I once had a question about Firefox; their help forum was "flooded" with questions as usual; as soon as you had posted, you could watch how it came off the "radar" in real-time <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>, and that time I got replies, but it was "stock replies" like check Caret browsing etc.

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    Re: PDFCreator document view settings

    Solved.

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    Re: PDFCreator document view settings

    Do tell. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: PDFCreator document view settings

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