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    system lock up - freeze (xp completely current)

    Periodically I get a complete system lock up - not enough to be able to repeat. I just recovered from one that apparently was caused by Outlook 2003. I was trying to forward - edit emails. Screen was filled with several windows and could not "X out" of any of them.

    When this happens I cannot get into either task mgr (alt-ctl-del) or wintasks.exe to see what is happening.

    I normally have about 1.2 mb of available storage and to the best of my knowledge nothing else is running - I don't use google desktop and don't normally have windows doing searches or indexing.

    My only thought is that I have either run out of cycles or memory when the lockups occur.

    Is there any way to "force taskmgr into execution" to see what is happening? I might be able to run wintasks.exe constantly but I don't normally do that.

    Rebooting is usually the only solution I have. Is there some way to capture system status into a file that I can look at(check) after a reboot? Is there a way to force wintask.exe or taskmgr to log to a file? Is there a way to force a look at allocated memory to see if it has been filled up?

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    Re: system lock up - freeze (xp completely current)

    Tom,
    After the fact, you might try to look at Control Panel>Administrative Tools>Event Viewer, to see if there are any error entries in any of the event logs.
    Might give you a clue as to what's happening?
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    Re: system lock up - freeze (xp completely current)

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    Everything seems to be recorded on the reboot - nothing prior to pulling the plug

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    Re: system lock up - freeze (xp completely current)

    1.2MB of available storage? If that's not a typo, you need to do some cleanup. I'd also suggest setting the pagefile size manually.
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    Re: system lock up - freeze (xp completely current)

    You could try start Task Manager right after you boot the system. Select the Processes tab & sort descending by CPU. Then size it so only the tip 4 or 5 show and move it to a corner of your display. That way maybe you can see if a program takes over the PC.

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    Re: system lock up - freeze (xp completely current)

    How large is your HD and how much RAM do you have ??? I agree with Jeremy... you don't have enough free space on your drive to be opening all those windows if you only have 1.2 MB free space.
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    Re: system lock up - freeze (xp completely current)

    Slot 'DIMM_4' is Empty
    Slot 'DIMM_3' is Empty
    Slot 'DIMM_2' has 1024 MB
    Slot 'DIMM_1' has 1024 MB
    Local Drive Volumes
    c: (NTFS on drive 0) 116.59 GB 31.37 GB free
    d: (NTFS on drive 0) 39.65 GB 25.39 GB free

    This is off belarc advisor's current profile

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    Re: system lock up - freeze (xp completely current)

    available memory 10242064 bytes

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    Re: system lock up - freeze (xp completely current)

    >c: (NTFS on drive 0) 116.59 GB 31.37 GB free

    You've got plenty of RAM. My guess would be that your problem is the free space on the C drive. It's less than 25%. If you can transfer 10 GB to the D drive (if that is just for data storage) or move it to an external medium I'd suspect that would stop the system lockups.
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    Re: system lock up - freeze (xp completely current)

    Another possibility is that your system needs a thorough cleaning and defrag. Do you do regular system maintenance ??
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    Re: system lock up - freeze (xp completely current)

    I dunno, Doc.
    31+ gigs free on an XP machine?
    Sounds OK to me. RAM is plenty, as you say.
    Cleanup could be a possibility?
    How many apps does he have running at once, including background apps?
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    Re: system lock up - freeze (xp completely current)

    From the OP's first post.... "I just recovered from one that apparently was caused by Outlook 2003. I was trying to forward - edit emails. Screen was filled with several windows and could not "X out" of any of them."

    He also said something about "normally" having about 1.2 MB free. Free what I'm not sure. <img src=/S/confused.gif border=0 alt=confused width=15 height=20>
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    Re: system lock up - freeze (xp completely current)

    I normally run with approx 1,200 mb of storage available. Haven't run a defrag in a while

    I will scrape some of the junk off the C drive - see if that helps.

    I have an external hard drive - so it won't be a problem to move a bunch of stuff offline.

    Thanks for all of the head scratching - if I magically find what is going on - I will let everyone know

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    Re: system lock up - freeze (xp completely current)

    Tom,
    1.2 MB is a BIT ( pun ) different than 1200MB.
    Happy cleaning. I think it will be a big help. <img src=/S/hmmn.gif border=0 alt=hmmn width=15 height=15>
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    Re: system lock up - freeze (xp completely current)

    Do not worry about RAM usage unless you observe that it is typically above 80% of your installed amount. Your RAM usage will increase and decrease through normal usage. If XP happens to need more memory than what is available it will use your pagefile to save some of what is in memory until enough is available to satisfy the need. For most people running XP 2 GB of RAM is plenty for day-to-day use.

    As far as your system hangs go have you checked the event logs? Have you tried loading Task Manager as I suggested in <post#=743998>post 743998</post#>?

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