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    More Registry Questions (Vista home Premium)

    Hello all and greetings,
    My question is this: When trying to delete a typical "useless" or "dead end" registry entry (As pointed out by "RegSupremePro) is it the last entry in the "string" that you delete, or the whole deal? (less Parent) Im not too concerned about making a "BAD" as i have ERUNT (emergency Recovery Utility NT ) (Don't know why this one is not talked about more) http://larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/ and acronis TI-11 (8101) Full images to "back me up" . I still am trying to figure out how to delete some "dead end" "Restricted System Keys" As RegDelNull does not work. Currently i am trying PsTools (sysinternals.com) Running psexec -sid regedit.exe, so far have not been successful. Any ideas? (besides forget it!) Regards
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    Re: More Registry Questions (Vista home Premium)

    OK, I won't say "forget it" but only because you specifically asked me not to! BUT, I'm sorry, I have to ask you - WHY? What's wrong with your machine that you are doing all this digging, trying to "clean up" the registry? I readily admit that I don't know anything about RegSupremePro and probably won't investigate it, but I can't help but hope that you're not spinning your wheels on something that is not "really" a problem. I happen to think that many computer users get too hung up in trying to make Windows "run better" or faster or, whatever, and truth be known you're not really improving much of anything and taking more risk than the potential improvement is worth. So there, I've had my rant for a Monday evening.

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    Re: More Registry Questions (Vista home Premium)

    Fred,

    You shouldn't have to enter the Registry nor make such a decision using RegSupreme Pro. The whole idea of such a utility is to eliminate such "tinkering" with the Registry. The only decision you have to make is if you want the program to "fix" or "remove" what it finds. And, it should go without saying, definitely make use of the "Make Backup" prompt, especially all the more so if you aren't sure but are going to go ahead and fix/remove something. Personally, I do make a cursory run-through of all the items found and thereafter use the "Select > all" feature and let 'er rip! :rofl: So far, I've never had a problem of any kind in doing this. YMMV Anytime you mess with the Registry you are risking system stability. <img src=/S/wink.gif border=0 alt=wink width=15 height=15>
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    Re: More Registry Questions (Vista home Premium)

    Big Al,
    Hello again. Your response reminds me of "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain", "THE ALL AND POWERFUL OZ HAS SPOKEN" ( not you but the concept of "not digging" and windows being the powerful oz.) OK here is the answer to your "WHY" ? (even though you didn't answer any of mine) It's not about "system performance" or saving a few uSEC's IN my 14 month PC journey (so far) i quickly realized that there were many things on MY pc that i did not want, or need. Most of the bundled programs are nothing more than advertisements to buy some "updated software", Stupid games "purble place" etc. Some like "power point viewer" don't know what a power point is or why i would want to view one. So i set out on a course to find out how to banish these unwanted programs. Now with my bag of "hack tools" i have successfully done so. Against all common wisdom (this forum) telling me that "You can't remove any part of the operating System". Well here's a news flash.... Yes Virginia you CAN and have done so! (Windows mail etc.) Now the only down side so far is that im now left with hundreds of now "orphaned" registry entries that have some kind of "protection" Restricted, etc. that thus far have prevailed against my attempts to delete them. As far as "risk", Whats the Risk? Even if i Totally hose the software and have to buy a new "OS" big deal, Spend that much ($200.00) taking my wife on an overnite dinner date! Now how about answering some of mine? Regards
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    Re: More Registry Questions (Vista home Premium)

    Jeff,
    Hello and thanks again! In answering your post, Yes you are correct about RegSupremePro " Doing the job" However when it points to some of the "Protected system" registry entries All that you will get is "Error Failed to Delete" "Access denied or Invalid key" So i need to know how to "manually" Do the job (when i find out how to defeat the protection) What's YMMV? Regards
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    Re: More Registry Questions (Vista home Premium)

    Fred,

    1) YMMV = Your mileage may vary, i.e., my experience may not necessarily be yours. <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>

    2) You keep mentioning "Protected system <folders/files>" as that which you want to remove but are unable. Now, what you do with your machine is certainly up to you; it is yours after all. But certainly if what you are wanting to remove is protected and they are system files, perhaps this should be telling you something, e.g., LEAVE THEM ALONE? <img src=/S/rofl.gif border=0 alt=rofl width=15 height=15> Personally, I don't mess with protected system files and unlike some here and those on other such forums, I don't have constant problems with my PCs. They run and run and run and work just dandy. They are fast, reliable and a joy to use.

    I hope you figure out how to accomplish your goal and that it won't have negative effects. <img src=/S/wink.gif border=0 alt=wink width=15 height=15>
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    Re: More Registry Questions (Vista home Premium)

    Jeff,
    Thanks again, for some reason im not being understood, it's not the "protected files and folders" ive already figured out to get rid of them . Its the "protected " registry keys (that have been orphaned) because ive eliminated the "parent programs" that im trying to dispose of.( the now "dead ends" as it were.) Regards
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    Re: More Registry Questions (Vista home Premium)

    Have you checked the permission on the registry key? You may need to give yourself permission to modify/delete it.

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    Re: More Registry Questions (Vista home Premium)

    Fred,

    Are you saying that if you go DIRECTLY into Regedit, you can't delete some keys?

    I don't know that I have ever experienced that problem. All the reg asks is "are you sure?" and if yes, then Bye, Bye with the entry.
    ( export the key first, is a good idea )

    <small>REGCURE</small> <img src=/S/whisper.gif border=0 alt=whisper width=29 height=17> also has allowed me to dump empty keys in Vista without any apparent complaining.
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    Re: More Registry Questions (Vista home Premium)

    Joe ,
    Hello and thank you. Yes, thats the problem, if you click on permissions and try to give your self "Full control" the response is "Access denied " Don't know how to change this screen's settings. Regards
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    Re: More Registry Questions (Vista home Premium)

    On the Security tab have you tried going to "Advanced" button and taking ownership of the key?

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    Bob,
    Hello and thank you also for your response. Yes thats correct, the problem seems to be mostly in "HKCR" but not exclusively. The reason that you probably have not seen this is.... you won't until you try and "can" some "OS" files, (Programs) and then try and delete their leftover "Keys". Regards
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    Re: More Registry Questions (Vista home Premium)

    Joe,
    Yes i have tried this in the past and could not figure what exactly the screen wanted me to input? ie , Owner, All users, Administrators, bill gates, etc? Also at one point in trying this, the top spot was filled in "Restricted" i will try this again Regards
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    Click on Advanced then click on the "Owner" tab. The current owner is listed at the top. At the bottom is a list of accounts. Select the one you wish to be the owner and click OK. If the account you wish to use is NOT listed use the "Other users or groups" button to locate more accounts.

    Once the owner of the the account is the account you are logged in under you should be able to change the permissions for that account on the "security" tab.

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    Fred,

    >> you won't until you try and "can" some "OS" files, (Programs) and then try and delete their leftover "Keys".

    Probably why I use that utility starting with the "R" word. <img src=/S/whisper.gif border=0 alt=whisper width=29 height=17>
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