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    Internet Security Suite

    Hi All,

    I just received notice that Verizon is discontinuing its "Verizon Yahoo Internet Security Suite." (Verizon uses Yahoo for much of its Internet services; Yahoo uses Norton. The suite was free for Verizon's DSL subscribers). I have actually found this to be a pain; when the AV component runs, it seems to slow my PC to almost a crawl (the PC is about 3 years old).

    I had spoken to Verizon about the slow-down early in the year. At that time, they offered me an alternative of "Verizon Internet Security Suite" at $6/month. After some questioning, they told me that this was developed by Verizon's "own programmers" and was best in the market. Of course, being suspicious of such claims that a new group within Verizon could put out something better than what others have been working on for years/decades, I declined the offer.

    Now, with the discontinuance of the "Verizon Yahoo Internet Security Suite, I have to make a choice.

    First question: does anyone have experience with Verizon's Internet Security Suite? Any good? Does it bring your PC to a crawl when it runs? Worth the money?

    Assuming for the moment that Verizon is NOT the way to go, what are the alternatives for "complete" protection (I know this has been discussed in gory detail but wanted any latest opinions)? For example, I downloaded AVG Free at the time but never installed it but it seems only to deal with AV protection; I know I'd need other components to round out the protection. (I also have Ad-Aware and Spybot Search and Destroy installed.)

    Free is always good but not at the expense of a torched PC. I'm not adverse to spending the $6/month but I just don't believe the Verizon product could be better than other programs.

    Opinions?

    TIA

    Fred

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    Re: Internet Security Suite

    Never heard of it, but $6/month -- $72/year -- is difficult to justify. There are routinely sales and rebates on "brand name" security suites that bring their prices into the range of "free" (except for tax/shipping) to $40 per year. Due to my location, I am most familiar with Fry's Electronics. Their web site is at frys.com, and here are some current examples of their frequent security software promotions. Note that some of these may expire tomorrow:

    FRYS.com | MCAFEE TOTAL PROTECTION 2009 - 3 USER: $69.99 with a $70 rebate.

    FRYS.com | TREND MICRO INTERNET SECURITY 2009 - 3 USER: $39.99 with a $40 rebate.

    FRYS.com | NORTON INTERNET SECURITY 2009 / SYSTEMWORKS BASIC 12 / GHOST 14 bundle: $79.99 with a $70 rebate.

    At Fry's, sale pricing generally runs from Friday through the next Tuesday, and rebates forms often are valid for another two days (in case the sales price is extended, I guess). So if none of those meet your needs, you won't have to wait long for their deals to rotate around. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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    Re: Internet Security Suite

    Hi Jefferson,

    Thks for the response.

    Any recommendations among the 3 products? Verizon used Norton and I hated it - it would bring my PC to a crawl. I used to have good experience with McAfee; is it still a good product?

    I've heard of Trend's product but not anything specific - good or bad.

    Are all 3 of these total products - AV, firewall, ad blocker, etc?

    Fred

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    Re: Internet Security Suite

    I'm not familiar with McAfee Total Protection, but judging from the name, it would be a complete suite. Both Norton's and Trend Micro's "Internet Security" product includes firewall, antivirus, anti-spyware and anti-spam. I do legal work for Trend Micro and also use their products at work (small business suite) and home (internet security pro). Some of the new features they add each year are not fully baked, but real-time performance is good and the interface is fairly easy to understand.

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    Re: Internet Security Suite

    Depending on your location and the deals to be had at this time of year, I have found Kaspersky Internet Security to be excellent. Anything you buy is going to be on an annual basis so you will get the latest no matter what it says on the box and some, without repeating any names you may have mentioned, do guzzle resources.

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    Re: Internet Security Suite

    Peter,

    Thanks for the feedback.

    Not sure what the dependency on location is about. I live in the US; is there some issue based on that?

    As to guzzling resources, I noted the one (Norton) that does that. Do either of the other 2 (McAfee or Trend) mentioned by Jefferson or Kaspersky fall into the same category? I would make this an important consideration in selecting a product, so I'd appreciate your input in this area.

    Fred

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    Re: Internet Security Suite

    That is the experience I had with Norton 360, but that would not be the current version, nor the commonest Norton.

    If you type CTNL-ALT-DEL and select Task Manager, it will provide a lot of information about where your resources are going, but I expect you already know that. Kaspersky is very tame by comparison (and very inexpensive in at least some stores right now).

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    Re: Internet Security Suite

    While Norton products used to hog resources in the past, recent versions are much improved in that respect.

    I'm using Norton Anti-Virus 2008 (which includes anti-spyware and a basic firewall) at home. It uses very little memory and CPU time except when running a scan. I run a scheduled full scan once a week during the night, so I'm never bothered by it.
    Automatic updates occur several times per day. The default setting is to run a quick scan after every update, this takes a minute or two and slows down performance noticeably during that time on a PC with a single-core CPU; on a PC with a dual-core CPU (or better), it is hardly noticeable. If you don't want this quick scan, you can turn it off.

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    Re: Internet Security Suite

    Good point. Most of us make present versus past comparisons, but I for one forget, when it applies, that our computers are vastly more powerful and faster than the hardware we were running in the past.

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    Re: Internet Security Suite

    Hi Hans,

    As Peter pointed out, though, my laptop is a little bit older now as I mentioned.

    The full scan has not been the problem. Like you, I run it late at night. Further, it doesn't really seem to slow things down very much - maybe when getting started but I'm not even sure about that and only a little if that.

    The problem, as you indicated, is the quick scan. I didn't think of turning it off, not even sure if I knew. If one does turn it off, what is it that one is turning off: the quick scan or the multiple daily updates? Is it possible to schedule the download to once per night and let it do the updating/quick scanning at night, like the full scan? From what you said, it seems you could do the multiple updates but turn off the quick scan. If I do that, I may as well do a full scan every night when I'm asleep.

    But now you raise a different question: what is the advantage of those frequent updates on a daily basis? Yes, I know that it always pays to have the LATEST AV available. But are the Norton's programmers and their counterpart virus programmers really working continuously so that there's a benefit/need to update the AV 2 or 3 times a day?

    Or maybe it's time for me to get a new PC? Right now, it's fine for me needs except for those #@% times when the quick scan takes over.

    Happy New Year!

    Fred

    I also take it from your comments that you are satisfied with the latest Norton.

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    Re: Internet Security Suite

    Frequent updates reflect the staggering pace of release of new malware. You do want the updates.

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    Re: Internet Security Suite

    I don't think there is a way to change the automatic update schedule - it's all or nothing.
    In the options for Norton Anti-Virus, LiveUpdate section, you can turn LiveUpdate on and off, and you can also indicate whether you want to receive a notice when updates are available.
    If you turn off "Notify me...", updates will be installed fully automatically, if you turn it on, you get a notification, then decide when you want to install them.
    Furthermore, you can indicate whether a quick scan is run after each update. Turning this off will *not* turn off automatic updates.
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    Re: Internet Security Suite

    And yes, as Jefferson also indicates, companies like Symantec really work 24 hours a day to add protection for new malware.

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