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    Backup Problems (XP Version 5.1 SP 3)

    Trying to use the Windows built-in backup program to back up "Documents and Settings" (around 5.7 GB).

    When backing up to DVD...it aborted at around 4 GB (error message about not possible with FAT 32?)

    When backing up to (16GB) USB memory stick...it said "tape full" (!), requested a new tape, I couldn't fool it by pulling and then re-inserting the stick...

    Any simple workaround for this (other than using Norton Ghost for full image, or a commercial backup program instead of the XP backup)?

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    Re: Backup Problems (XP Version 5.1 SP 3)

    Consensus of opinion around here.... or at least, what most of us seem to be posting about Window built-in backup is "don't use it". It is unreliable and cannot restore data to a different computer when migrating to a new machine. Best option for backups is an imaging program. IMHO, of course. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Backup Problems (XP Version 5.1 SP 3)

    You would need to split the backup into two, since a single file is produced. I knew that FAT-32 had a file-size limit of 4 GB, but I didn't know this applied also to CDFS (if that's what DVDs use!).

    What's the capacity of your DVD drive anyway? Mine is 4.7 GB, but are you using double-density or (gasp!) BluRay?

    I'm using a front/back-ended version of NTBackup on our two Windows 2003 servers and have been for 3½ years on one, quite happily. And restoring Stuff from the backup tapes!
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    Re: Backup Problems (XP Version 5.1 SP 3)

    Using plain old standard DVD+RW discs.

    Trying to decide which program to buy. If I get an imaging program such as Norton Ghost (to back up the whole drive), is it practical to use that for all backups (to DVD or USB stick) or do I also need a backup program?

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    Re: Backup Problems (XP Version 5.1 SP 3)

    Norton Ghost is a backup program. It can be setup to create images of your system or of individual files. The full system backup will restore your computer to the exact state it was when the image was created. Other options are True Image and Shadow Protect.

    Also, for backups, again IMHO, DVD-R disks are better options. The DVD-RW disks have a tendency to fail after multiple write sessions. The best option is a second HD. USB Memory sticks also have the annoying tendency to fail at the most inopportune moments. <img src=/S/hmmn.gif border=0 alt=hmmn width=15 height=15>
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    Re: Backup Problems (XP Version 5.1 SP 3)

    I succeeded in copying individual directories to DVD (right-click, drag, copy in Win. Explorer) but later got the blue screen of death...physical memory dumps etc., had to re-boot.

    What might cause this?

    Also, I've heard that some XP users couldn't use Ghost without first converting all files from FAT 32 to NTFS. If so, is that a low- or high-risk operation? Presumably the problem would be the same whether backing up to external HD (as I probably will do, following your suggestion) or another medium.

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    Re: Backup Problems (XP Version 5.1 SP 3)

    To answer your first question... probably moving the files and writing them to the DVD. I'm making an assumption that you may be trying to do too much too fast, but try moving fewer files at one time and allowing the system to "digest" what you've asked it to do before moving others or writing to the DVD.

    From here.....
    "Norton Ghost supports shrink on restore for FAT, FAT32, and NTFS. Smaller drives can be used when restoring backup images (when space is available)."

    Before you ask, I have no knowledge of Argentum Backup (the page I linked to).
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