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    Converting LP's / Cassettes to mp3

    Hi all. Using an Ion turn table, I have just transferred some LP's & cassettes to computer then burned them to CD. The said CD's, play great on the computer BUT when I've tried to play them in two different CD players they aren't even recognized let alone will they play. It will be seen from the screen shot that the format is said to be APC MP3; is this different from the normal mp3 formats, if so, what else must I do using the Ion player to ensure the subsequent burned CD's will play in any player, not just the computer which is the main reason for wanting them on CD's in the first place. Regards SF
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    Re: Converting LP's / Cassettes to mp3

    MP3 CD's only play in players with an MP3 codec on board - have you checked? For tunes that will play in ANY player, you'll have to burn the disc in music CDA format.
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    Re: Converting LP's / Cassettes to mp3

    Not only should you use CD Audio format, but you must burn the files onto CD-R media, not CD-RW discs, for maximum compatibility.

    (See, for example, Difference among Audio CD, MP3 CD and Data CD.)

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    Re: Converting LP's / Cassettes to mp3

    Thanks gentlemen for your replies. Permit me to deal with your comments one by one. John; being a novice with a capital N your point about ascertaining whether the players have mp3 Codec on board is beyond me as I do not have the instruction booklet. Furthermore, seeing I loan these CD’s to numerous friends who no doubt will all have different players of diverse quality / prices, there is no way of knowing whether they too will have CD Codec on board so the “Any Player” option using CDA format is by far the best choice for me. However, how to record in that format is not something I am not familiar with, sorry. Leif; I clicked on the link you sent and read the article but am not a lot wiser I’m afraid, it seemed to state that there are two kinds of CD’s namely, Data CD’s and music mp3 CD’s. Sorry I could not doctor the screen shot into a jpg as (all of a sudden) the “Paste as new image” is greyed out in my Photo Editor program. Yet another gremlin appears !!!
    MP3 CD An MP3 CD is a specialized type of data disc. All files copied to an MP3 disc will be, if needed, converted to MP3 format. Like the Data CD, files can be organized into folders. Media files on the MP3 CD can be accompanied by M3U formatted play lists, which are used by some MP3 players to play the MP3 files on the disc. When placed in an MP3 compatible CD or DVD player, MP3 discs are played like any audio CD.
    MP3 Discs can be created using CD-R or CD-RW media.

    Data CD A data disc is similar to a CD or DVD that is used to install software on your computer: it holds just data/files. Use this feature to backup or store your media files. Real Player compatible files (Real Audio, MP3, etc.) from your local drives can be burned directly onto a data CD. During burning, the files are copied to the disc just as they are, without conversion or modification. Real Player can also organize the files in folders based on artist and album. (See CD Burner details.) Data discs may be created using CD-R or CD-RW media.
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    Re: Converting LP's / Cassettes to mp3

    > I loan these CD’s to numerous friends

    Then you will need to burn them as standard music CD's, as CDA files. If you simply copy MP3 files to a CD, players that do not handle MP3 formats will not be able to play them. You will need intermediary software such as iTunes, Nero, etc to burn CDA files from MP3 source files. Which is what I frequently do, though all my CD players (home and car) are now MP3 capable.

    To simplify your comments: a music CD burned with CDA files is recognized as a music CD by any CD player (subject to the media restrictions Leif noted). A CD burned with unconverted MP3 files is a data CD that will not be recognized by a music CD player with no onboard MP3 codec hardware.

    MP3 (and WMA and other compressed format) CD and DVD players usually have an indictor on the front panel showing what they can handle.
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    Re: Converting LP's / Cassettes to mp3

    I'd swear we've been down this road before, Dave. You DO still have AShampoo don't you? Here's what you need to do and it will take you by the hand to select the files on your hard drive to burn. See attachment.
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    Re: Converting LP's / Cassettes to mp3

    Hi Big Al. BINGO. There is a saying, "Ignorance is Bliss" and that's very true but it is also frustrating when the answer is before one's eyes yet the wood cannot be seen for the trees. My simple mistake was to have clicked on the first option in AShampoo rather than the third. Even our cheep rather ancient CD player coped perfectly with the CD just now when I inserted it but another point what I find somewhat puzzling is that when I played the first CD with 9 tracks in mp3 format in the DVD player through the tv, the remote Menu button brought all the 9 tracks to view on screen which could be selected for playing, which was particularly convenient as the 9 tracks were of lectures each of over 60 minutes length. However, the two LP's ( just under 80 minutes) I just burned to CD would not display the individual tracks on the tv screen so could not be selected for playing. NOT a great problem I agree seeing there are only 9 music tracks, but just wondered why this should be. Now for what might seem a stupid question, seeing I have many dozens of cassettes with these lectures on, is it possible to use a DVD disc instead of a CD of these many -just audio- lectures; to limit the number of discs used and will they play on anything other than a DVD player through the tv? Go easy on me Al if this is sounds barmy as I so struggle with this very complex technology but am getting there slowly with all the great help you guys have offered me. I tend to think at times I know nothing about the botany of this here I.T. jungle till I get a call from some friend who has a problem which I am gladly able to help with, due almost entirely to the help this site has afforded. You guys are just the best thing since sliced bread. THANKS a BUNCH. Dave.
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    Re: Converting LP's / Cassettes to mp3

    Audio CDs max out around 70-80 minutes. For maximum compatibility, you're stuck with that. Of course you could burn DVDs, but they sure won't play in any of my CD players.

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    Re: Converting LP's / Cassettes to mp3

    Thanks Jeff....slow to learn but learning nevertheless & in light of big Als brief comment, (have we been down this road before?) maybe we have in some connected way but certainly not in the same context as this thread as I just got the ION player at Christmas so have never faced the challenge of converting cassettes etc before. Then there is the dreaded tendency [becomes more apparent with old age I'm afraid] of having been down a road before but forgetting the scenery; metaphorically speaking that is. One thing being to MY advantage is that this sort of media is relatively cheep so experimenting is, besides appealing to you good people for help, another way is to discover what one can & can't do. Regards.
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    Re: Converting LP's / Cassettes to mp3

    Still on this subject...rather than start another thread...... in light of the maximum duration of a CD being 80 mins, I came across a sermon which is in two parts of aprox 60 mins each BUT whilst they were delivered in two separate sessions, they have been lopped together as one download of just over 2 hours. Short of recording them to two separate cassettes ( which will have to be done in real time) then transferring them to HD via the ION player as two tracks, is there an easier / quicker way of slitting them back into two separate recordings so they can be finally burned to two separate CD's please? Regards.
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    Re: Converting LP's / Cassettes to mp3

    There are many free utilities that let you split MP3 files, for example mp3DirectCut.

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    Re: Converting LP's / Cassettes to mp3

    Many thanks Hans, that is great know, I will explore the technique and see if I can master it. Regards Dave.
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    Re: Converting LP's / Cassettes to mp3

    On this subject, just in case the one Hans suggested doesn't do it for you... Some time ago, I discovered a business that I believe is in London and they deal in audio and video software with a large menu of programs available. So far, I believe they are "safe" and I get no spam because of them that I can tell. At any rate, I paid a fee because of two of their programs that I wanted and the fee entitles me to use all of their software. They are AVS4YOU.

    Well, they also have some utilities that I think are free and an audio editor is one such program. At least I think it's free and here is a link: AVS Audio Editor - mix your own music, apply effects and filters..

    I just downloaded a copy and played around with an MP3 music file, splitting it into two separate files using "copy to new" and it worked easily.

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    Re: Converting LP's / Cassettes to mp3

    Many thanks Al for your advice I looked at the link Hans suggested but am afraid could not make out which of the many options I needed. No reflection on the product but my lack of understanding as to what they all do. I shall likewise have a look at the link you provided and let you know how I get on..............I have just looked at the site you recommended Al and coincidentally I had seen it earlier in the night when I Googled (split mp3 file) but again like the site Hans pointed me to I could not discern what tab to click on hence my current post. Kind regards.
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    Re: Converting LP's / Cassettes to mp3

    Just a bit of encouragement while you're downloading and installing! I loaded a very short speaking MP3 file just to show you what to do to "split" a file into two separate files. In this first graphic you see the entire file, recorded in stereo, so there are two tracks visible. I highlighted the first half of the file by simply dragging with my mouse and in the next graphic I'll show you what that looks like.
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