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    Re-Pin the Unpinned

    If this (Windows 7) post is in the wrong place, I apologize.

    I just (re-) installed Windows 7. Now, I got in trouble before moving stuff off the taskbar that I couldn't put back, so this time I ask first:

    If I unpin an item like "Libraries", how do I put it back if I change my mind? I found the folder/pointer, but there isn't a "Pin" in the context menyu.

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    Re: Re-Pin the Unpinned

    With a little exploring (!) <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15> I think you will see that it isn't "Libraries" that is pinned to the Taskbar but Windows Explorer. I think it would be impossible to pin Libraries to anything per se.

    So, at default, Windows Explorer (WE) is there among some other pinned at the Taskbar, yes; are you saying that if you unpin WE you cannot open Start menu | All Programs | Accessories and right-click on Windows Explorer selecting "Pin to Taskbar" and get it back?

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    Re: Re-Pin the Unpinned

    Argus, I hear what you're saying...I think..

    Are you telling me that that is actualyy a shortcut soething to the effect of explorer.exe /e,c:, where the c: is "C:UsersCWBillowAppDataRoamingMicrosoftWindowsLibr aries"?

    'Cause it don't look like that. And when I go to Windows Explorer now, as I [at this moment] have the "Libraries" icon, I don't have a choice to pin Explorer, just unpin it. SI it con't be a "regular" shortcutm, or else it would let me make more that n for different folders, woulodn't it? 'Cause when I just set up shortcuts, I have the "Pin" option for any/all of them.

    What makes this one so different?

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    Re: Re-Pin the Unpinned

    I don't know what you are doing or what you try to achieve. AFAIK the Taskbar is for running or pinned programs, you don't pin shortcuts on the Taskbar per se.

    If I create a Notepad file "Test.txt" in My Documents, and then create a shortcut to that file on the Desktop, if I try to pin that shortcut to the Taskbar I get an option to pin it to NOTEPAD. If I accept it, Notepad gets pinned to the Taskbar and in its right-click Jumplist I find Test.txt pinned. I can of course remove the shortcut to Test.txt but keep Notepad pinned or remove the whole shebang.
    <UL><LI>What do you mean by: "... 'Cause it don't look like that.[...]"?
    <LI>What do you mean by "Libraries" icon"?
    <LI>"SI it con't be a "regular" shortcutm ...", translation please.[/list]Of course if an application is already pinned to the Taskbar, you will only have the option to unpin it. You can't pin several instances of the same application to the Taskbar, it would completely ruin the idea. You have Jumplists to use.

    Again, I don't know what you are doing. If you create a shortcut to for example Downloads (quite useless, since by default it is there among the "favourite links" in Windows Explorer, but just as an example); C:UsersUsernameDownloads, and place that shortcut on the Desktop you don't have any right-click option to pin it to the Taskbar. However if you have not removed the pinned Windows Explorer when you move the abovementioned shortcut to the Taskbar you will get an option to pin it to Windows Explorer's Jumplist. Just as with the Notepad file.

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    Re: Re-Pin the Unpinned

    Argus:

    It must be confusing, 'cause now I'm conusing myself!

    All I wanted to figure out wss the following:

    When I first installed Windows 7, there was a "Libraries" icon on the taskbar, that when opend, showed -- Libraries. I mistakenly though this was a typical shortcut or ...? I unpinned it.

    Then I went looking for it, and found it at "C:UsersCWBillowAppDataRoamingMicrosoftWindowsLibr aries", but it had no way to "Pin" it. Is "pinning" just another way of saying "shortcut"? That's where and why I said

    "It doesn't look like any regular shortcut."

    I don't understand the diffeence, and, if there is a difference, how to re-create what I had inadvertently unpinned.

    Hope that clarifie my slurring a bit.

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    Re: Re-Pin the Unpinned

    It isn't a "Libraries" icon, it's WE as you now know.

    "Is "pinning" just another way of saying "shortcut"?"

    Pinning programs at the Taskbar is one of the new main features with the Taskbar in the upcoming Windows 7. Do take a look at the different MSFT blogs and sites that mention news in Windows 7.

    You re-create the WE at the Taskbar as I said in <post:=756,251>post 756,251</post:>.

    BTW look at "Libraries: frequently asked questions" in the Help and Support. Search for "Libraries", if you want. Though note that help files for Windows are "... preliminary and subject to change". I am sure this is covered somewhere on the net also. And perhaps at their beta forum.

    Libraries are a way of grouping files that share a common characteristic regardless of where those files are stored.

    WE, when pinned at the Taskbar as at default, just happens to start at the Libraries, much as if you clicked on your username on the Start menu (instead of clicking let's say Documents). I'm sure it's possible to change WE's behaviour, but I have not looked at it since at this beta stage I'm happy as it is and how it works at default.

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    Re: Re-Pin the Unpinned

    OK, thanks Argus.

    I'll take a look.

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    Re: Re-Pin the Unpinned

    Argus,

    NOW I feel stupid! So "Libraries" is just now the new built-in default....

    Oh my...

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    Re: Re-Pin the Unpinned

    It is similar to the Current "Computer, and Documents", They do NOT exist, but are a system link to the logged in user's files listed under the "Users/accountname" folder.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Re-Pin the Unpinned

    Dave:

    Yeah, I found the "Libraries" folder at C:UsersCWBillowAppDataRoamingMicrosoftWindowsLibra ries.

    How/why is a "library-ms" "item" different than say, having a folder with shortcuts to the documents?

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    Re: Re-Pin the Unpinned

    Chuck,
    I'm obviously not Dave, but some comment. I have not read myself into all the news and tested it, since I do other things in the beta.

    First: in Windows Explorer (WE) you have Libraries as a standard entry in the Navigation pane to the left, as Favorite links.

    A "folder with shortcuts to the documents" will not appear in every Navigation pane, every instance of WE. You place the folder somewhere, and there it will be. With Libraries you can collect some folders in a library and they will auto update as files are added at the other places etc.

    I'm sure you have right-clicked Libraries in the Navigation pane and seen that you can restore the default four; right-clicked in the right pane or at Libraries in the left and noticed that you can create new libraries.

    And as you have seen file type is: “Library (.library-ms)”. Yoa can tell it to collect and it does it, as per above.

    As to your other question about pinned programs:
    In: C:UsersUsernameAppDataRoamingMicrosoftInternet ExplorerQuick LaunchUser PinnedTaskBar You will find, yes, a shortcut to WE.

    You can also right-click on WE INSIDE the junplist on the Taskbar and select properties to watch the shortcut mentioned.

    It is when a shortcut to an application gets pinned to the Taskbar the "magic" starts. You get a jumplist etc. Or I should say any running application, pinned or otherwise, is represented by a shortcut on the Taskbar. If not pinned obviously it's temporarily.

    Start the Calculator and if not pinned right-click and select its properties in the Jumplist and you will see a shortcut, perhaps the one in Accessories Start menu.

    See also here, among I guess many places:
    Engineering Windows 7 : At Home with HomeGroup in Windows 7
    <hr>With the introduction of libraries, we also had an opportunity to remove some of the confusion between specialized media libraries that are created by Windows Media Player (WMP) or Windows Media Center (WMC). In previous versions of Windows, WMP would scan the entire hard drive on the computer to find media files and add them into a media library, but in Windows 7 this no longer has to happen. Since you already have Windows Explorer libraries, WMP and MCE just use those.<hr>

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    Re: Re-Pin the Unpinned

    Dave:

    It's strange how in many ways 7 feels like Vista, and yet there are certain new aspects that make it a much different animal.

    I read this morning that Microsoft is going right to a RC, with no more beta. That's rather hopeful. Sort of a Vista SE.

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    Re: Re-Pin the Unpinned

    Where did you read this?
    Hope you have a hot link!

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: Re-Pin the Unpinned

    Hello Dave,
    Sorry for intervening. Talking to you both <img src=/S/grin.gif border=0 alt=grin width=15 height=15>, but I was also wondering when I read it; but I had previously read some words at Engineering Windows 7 by Steven Sinofsky.
    http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/01/3...-milestone.aspx

    After Chuck's post I realised and read that it was mentioned by our Woody and some other places and saw them mention the e7 post there.
    Windows 7 going straight to Release Candidate
    http://askwoody.com/newscomments.php?newsid=2286
    Microsoft says it again - no second beta for Windows 7
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/02/wi...no_second_beta/

    But that wasn't how I interpreted it when I first read the post at e7. I read it as only one PUBLIC beta. Now some might say that it is only the public beta that matters for common people, true.

    At the end he says:
    "We have internal metrics and milestones and our partners continue to get builds routinely so even when we reach RC, we are doing so together as partners. And it relies, rather significantly, on all of you testing the Beta and our partners who are helping us get to the finish line together."

    There will no doubt be internal builds and beta shipped to some partner or tested in-house.

    And I don't know if I see Windows 7 as Vista SE, but then I have used Vista way too little. If so, then XP could be called Windows 2000 SE.

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    Re: Re-Pin the Unpinned

    Thanks for the input.
    I was thinking the same, as there would not be another Public Beta, but I see that there will need to be a few more builds released to the "MS Beta" testers.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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