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    Son, serving in Kandahar, Afghanistan, wants me to order a desktop computer prior to his return in July--he has a laptop, but, my goodness, it is all of 3 years old! My thought is to wait until Windows 7 is released (June 2009?)--and maybe a month or two beyond the release so that initial bugs can perhaps be worked out. Ordering now obviously brings Vista with all its problems? A reasonable action?

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    [quote name='DenGar' post='765348' date='13-Mar-2009 22:42'][/quote]

    You can count on Windows 7 being released in June. Even if it is released in July that will be only RTM (Release to Manufacturing). Then it goes to OEMs and there is a 30 - 60 day time frame before new models hit the street. What I'd do is hold off until Microsoft (and its partners) OFFICIALLY announce the trade up (buy Vista now and get a Win 7 upgrade free when released). Besides any new hardware that is reasonably configured will support Vista very well.

    What 'problems' with Vista concern you?

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    [quote name='DenGar' post='765348' date='13-Mar-2009 23:42']Son, serving in Kandahar, Afghanistan, wants me to order a desktop computer prior to his return in July--he has a laptop, but, my goodness, it is all of 3 years old! My thought is to wait until Windows 7 is released (June 2009?)--and maybe a month or two beyond the release so that initial bugs can perhaps be worked out. Ordering now obviously brings Vista with all its problems? A reasonable action?[/quote]
    "Vista with all its problems"
    Any idea what "all of its problems" might be ???????
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    [quote name='Rebel' post='765357' date='14-Mar-2009 05:21']"Vista with all its problems"
    Any idea what "all of its problems" might be ???????[/quote]
    I think that debate has been had at interminable length over the last couple of years - you surely are not saying that you haven't read any of the computer press over that period?
    This week's Windows Secrets newsletter (as written in by Woody) has an article on how to 'down'-grade from Vista to XP in 'seven easy steps' - a bit extreme, but indicative!
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    [quote name='BATcher' post='765373' date='14-Mar-2009 05:05']I think that debate has been had at interminable length over the last couple of years - you surely are not saying that you haven't read any of the computer press over that period?
    This week's Windows Secrets newsletter (as written in by Woody) has an article on how to 'down'-grade from Vista to XP in 'seven easy steps' - a bit extreme, but indicative![/quote]

    Woody's article and others like it were exactly what prompted my concern.

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    I have found that IF the machine was built FOR Vista there are very little problems. The biggest problem I see are the OLDER programs and devices, as we had when we went from 98 to XP. Same story just another book.

    Also the BOTTOM of the line machines with Vista Home BASIC should never be on the market, but that is what is selling and why we are seeing a lot of issues. And these same people who want the cheapest machine but must play those games that require a "Power machine".

    One thing that was left out of Woody's article is the issue of SATA drive divers, most of the XP CD's do NOT have built in drivers for them.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    [quote name='BATcher' post='765373' date='14-Mar-2009 05:05']you surely are not saying that you haven't read any of the computer press over that period?
    This week's Windows Secrets newsletter (as written in by Woody) has an article on how to 'down'-grade from Vista to XP in 'seven easy steps' - a bit extreme, but indicative![/quote]
    Certainly I've read these articles. Just as I read similar articles when Windows 95 was released; and when Windows 98 was released; and when Windows ME was released; and when Windows XP was released; and when Service Packs for these various versions were released. Every release of Windows (and its Service Packs) result in "problems" for some users, but they have also resulted in very positive experiences for the vast majority of users. There will always be "problems" with new releases - whether with incompatible hardware, incompatible software, or (in many cases) - "incompatible users" .

    If some wish to delay a purchase until the next version of Windows is released, then that's fine. But there are no guarantees that this will be a "problem free" environment, or that there will not be a learning curve, or that everything will work "as advertised" once the next version is available. If we think otherwise, then I think we're just deluding ourselves.

    Currently, I have three machines using Vista - 1 laptop which I upgraded from XP to Vista, and another laptop and a desktop which were delivered with Vista pre-installed. I've had no problems with any of these machines, and I would not give even the briefest consideration to downgrading these to XP. I too am looking forward to the release of Windows 7, but I don't think Scott Dunn's guide to installing XP is "indicative" of anything. But, that's just my

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