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    [quote name='BATcher' post='769957' date='10-Apr-2009 03:29']Downgrade plan for Windows 7 PCs[/quote]

    Not sure why anyone with Win7 would want to downgrade to Vista (it's the same base as Win7) or WinXP (no longer supported except for security patches).

    Also, Microsoft's plans for distributing and upgrading Win7 sound pretty darn screwy, at best! What is wrong with those guys in Redmon? Do thy have some sort of disease? Is it catchable?

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    Microsoft Windows 7: Upgrade or just buy a pizza?
    by Dave Rosenberg

    BusinessWeek ( http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/conte...27063278613.htm ) is running a piece on Microsoft's latest attempts to fight back against Apple and Linux and its secret strategy to force unwitting Windows users to upgrade to various flavors of Windows 7.

    Because of the smaller size of Windows 7, three versions of the program will come loaded even on lower-end machines. If a consumer on a cheaper PC running the "Standard" version tries to use a high-definition monitor or run more than three software programs at once, he'll discover that neither is possible. Then he'll be prompted to upgrade to the pricier "Home Premium" or "Ultimate" version.

    Microsoft says the process will be simple. Customers enter their credit-card information, then a 25-character code, make a few keystrokes, then reboot. (Microsoft Corporate Vice President for Consumer-Product Marketing Brad Brooks) says pricing hasn't been determined, but upgrading "will cost less than a night out for four at a pizza restaurant."

    I can't decide if this strategy is profoundly stupid or just utterly moronic.

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    Full article:
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    [quote name='ibe98765' post='770743' date='15-Apr-2009 21:21']...pricing hasn't been determined, but upgrading "will cost less than a night out for four at a pizza restaurant."[/quote]
    And far fewer calories.

    I think people will not be impressed if their computer can't run 4 programs at once without a paid upgrade. For their shareholders' protection, they better put a very clear label on the box!

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    [quote name='ibe98765' post='770743' date='16-Apr-2009 05:21']Not sure why anyone with Win7 would want to downgrade to Vista (it's the same base as Win7) or WinXP (no longer supported except for security patches).[/quote]
    That's an easy one - many companies will want to move their whole stock of PCs from XP to Windows 7, but not until they upgrade the older and slower ones. It is currently difficult, and may well soon be impossible, to get the manufacturer to install the so-called downgrade option (XP) on a new PC, so the ability to take a Windows 7 PC and (temporarily, perhaps) replace it with XP, will enable a smoother transition.

    The charity I work for would need about half of its machines replaced to run Windows 7 properly - but I can't see a grant of ~10K anywhere on the horizon in these straitened times...
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    [quote name='ibe98765' post='770743' date='16-Apr-2009 05:21']Not sure why anyone with Win7 would want to downgrade to Vista (it's the same base as Win7) or WinXP (no longer supported except for security patches).[/quote]
    I assumed that it was because some businesses might be running a fair number of PCs with one OS and if they have to buy an extra PC they might want to have a similar installation on all of them rather than just the extra PC running a new OS that no-one else was familiar with.

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    [quote name='ibe98765' post='770743' date='15-Apr-2009 23:21']Also, Microsoft's plans for distributing and upgrading Win7 sound pretty darn screwy, at best! What is wrong with those guys in Redmon? Do thy have some sort of disease? Is it catchable?[/quote]

    First off, the "Standard" version is really the "Starter" edition. See Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows: Windows 7 Product Editions: A Comparison and The mystery of the 3 app limit in Windows 7 Starter - SuperSite Blog for some more discussion about Windows 7.

    Just because some netbooks will come preloaded with Win 7 Starter does not mean all will. Not does it mean you can't order one with a different SKU. It is just a way to get a relatively cheap version of the OS on a relatively inexpensive machine.

    For the vast majority who are buying desktops or notebooks this is not an issue. It just means that the consumer will have to act like an adult, do a little homework, & pay attention.

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    [quote name='joeperez' post='770798' date='16-Apr-2009 23:42']act like an adult, do a little homework, & pay attention.

    Joe[/quote]
    That would be a first for some users!!

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    [quote name='johbot' post='770950' date='16-Apr-2009 17:56']That would be a first for some users!![/quote]

    More than I care to count.

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    [quote name='joeperez' post='770953' date='16-Apr-2009 19:06']More than I care to count. [/quote]
    And many of those can't do that either; i.e., "count"!
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    [quote name='Pilgrim' post='771026' date='17-Apr-2009 09:46']And many of those can't do that either; i.e., "count"[/quote]

    They are almost certainly out of luck when they run out of fingers.

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