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    While returning a client's XP system the other day (the one that would not boot and was loaded with viruses & trojans) His 30 something son was there and had lent his father his Win2K box until I returned his father's system.

    The son asked if there was a way to remove everything from the System Tray and the System Tray itself because "that's where everything was coming from" . I told him that was not possible because the programs displayed there were all critical to system operation and security. He informend me that his girlfriend's high school age daughter had worked on his 2000 system when he got a virus and cleaned it out in 5 minutes by simply running one program and also had used the "CCCleaner" program included with Firefox to clear the system of all problems and then had changed some settings that removed the system tray from view.

    I listened with feigned, rapt attention and then told him that I didn't believe what he was saying she did was possible and asked if he could find out how she did that. He said he didn't know but wondered why I needed 2 days to clean his father's system up. I told him it was because that was how long it took with this particular mess he'd made of his father's computer and asked him if he could not use the PC to surf for porn and play online poker and other games hosted on risky sites. He rolled his eyes and walked away.

    So.... my question is, was what he was saying about removing the System Tray even possible and I'm simply some ignorant, old computer hack or was he talking out of his hat ???
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    It sounds like nonsense to me. Even if one could hide or remove the system tray, that wouldn't remove the nasties.

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    [quote name='DocWatson' post='772369' date='26-Apr-2009 12:33']... had lent his father his Win2K box until I returned his father's system.[/quote]
    If the son's Win2K box was what the father was using, you should have looked at it to see if it did have an empty tray. I guess there are SOME things that we control that can be stopped from displaying in the tray, but 100% I don't think so.

    I also echo that it had nothing to do with the nasties he brought down on his father. Sounds like you had an "interesting" encounter, to say the least!

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    [quote name='HansV' post='772381' date='26-Apr-2009 15:40']It sounds like nonsense to me. Even if one could hide or remove the system tray, that wouldn't remove the nasties.[/quote]

    I totally agree that it was nonsense !!

    This guy was one of the people responsible for all the problems my friend has had with his computer over the last 2 years. I go down there once a year or so to clean up the mess. But this time he'd gummed it up so much I had to take the machine home. He knew that I'd told his father that part of this was due to his son's surfing habits and installing programs or utilities he wants to have without unchecking the opt-in boxes that these "vendors" have so kindly checked in advance for you. And, as such, was a bit peeved at me and trying to show me up.
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    [quote name='Bigaldoc' post='772405' date='26-Apr-2009 17:29']If the son's Win2K box was what the father was using, you should have looked at it to see if it did have an empty tray. I guess there are SOME things that we control that can be stopped from displaying in the tray, but 100% I don't think so.

    I also echo that it had nothing to do with the nasties he brought down on his father. Sounds like you had an "interesting" encounter, to say the least![/quote]

    They had disconnected that box before I arrived and I didn't feel like going through all that trouble just to prove to someone that they are arrogant and stupid.

    Once he told me that if I could eliminate the System Tray that he was sure it would solve the problem, because "that's where all the problems are coming from" I knew I was in the presence of a computer God and could do nothing more than grovel at his feet, genuflect and politely ignore his dumb ass !!!
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    [quote name='DocWatson' post='772369' date='26-Apr-2009 18:33']So.... my question is, was what he was saying about removing the System Tray even possible and I'm simply some ignorant, old computer hack or was he talking out of his hat ???[/quote]
    I agree with what you have said, Doc (and Hans & Al) about cleaning and "the nasties brought down". And think that "that's where all the problems are coming from" and that the solution would be to hide it, is the dumbest thing I've heard in a week or two.

    However, administrators every now and then wants to lock down some machines in some different ways, and as we all know a lot is possible via Group Policies or simply by editing the registry (though the most common lock down for the tray (Notification Area, whatever) is probably related to the clock).

    In this case, hiding the whole area, it is either via the Group Policy Object Editor; User Configuration | Administrative Templates | Start Menu and Taskbar | Hide the notification area, or directly in registry keys:

    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\Explorer
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    HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol icies\Explorer

    DWORD Value: NoTrayItemsDisplay = 1.

    But you'll have to turn off the clock yourself.

    "Look Ma, no tray! No problems!"

    [attachment=83491:Taskbar.JPG]

    He must be really confused; hiding doesn't SOLVE anything, neither in the real world, nor in the computer world. As we all very well know, everything you had running in the tray - is still running.
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    Thanks for that Argus.

    I thought there must be some registry hack or Group Policy that could accomplish this, but couldn't, for the life of me, figure out why anyone would want to do something so stupid. As you said, it doesn't correct or eliminate the problem, it merely hides it from view.
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