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    Who Owns The Fish?

    I think it is a great puzzle. According to the worksheet I was given this puzzle is attributed to Albert Einstein. He claimed that 98% of the world could not work it out. Can you? Cheers Dave.[attachment=83815:Who_owns_the_fish.png]
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    <span title="Spoiler: Highlight to reveal" style='color:#000000;background:#000000;padding:0p x 0.2em;'>[color=#666;margin-right: 0.2em]SPOILER:[/color]The Norwegian who played hockey with his fish in the yellow house on the left</span>

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    [quote name='pi-eater' post='775829' date='19-May-2009 05:10']<span title="Spoiler: Highlight to reveal" style='color:#000000;background:#000000;padding:0p x 0.2em;'>[color=#666;margin-right: 0.2em]SPOILER:[/color]The Norwegian who played hockey with his fish in the yellow house on the left</span>[/quote]


    Hi Pi...... first and only response so far, I suspect this one has got the loungers stumped. Maybe someone from the 2% Einstein said could crack the sode might emmerge from their hybernation and spell out the answer so the rest of us can relax. As for the response you gave Pi, not enough detail to qualify for a job at Bletchley Park where the Brits cracked the Enigma code the Germans thought was un-crackable. Dave
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    <span title="Spoiler: Highlight to reveal" style='color:#000000;background:#000000;padding:0p x 0.2em;'>[color=#666;margin-right: 0.2em]SPOILER:[/color]The German owns the fish.
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    [quote name='HansV' post='775979' date='19-May-2009 20:56']<span title="Spoiler: Highlight to reveal" style='color:#000000;background:#000000;padding:0p x 0.2em;'>[color=#666;margin-right: 0.2em]SPOILER:[/color]The German owns the fish.
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    Thanks Hans....something to chew over when I get the time. Will forward the solution to a friend who says she [& visiting relations] spent hours trying to fathom it out but got progressivley confused and gave up. Cheers Dave.
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    As to it being attributed to Einstein, that's hooey. And, i assure you, moe than 2% of the world's populace can solve it. In fact, it's such a common type of puzzle that puzzle fans have names for it - my own favourite is "The shortstop eats spaghetti."

    Many computer games are based on this sort of matrix puzzle - "Inspector Parker", for instance, or the shareware game "Dinner with Moriarity"

    To solve:

    set up a twenty-five by twenty-five matrix; each column and each row represents one of the characteristics (five for nationality, five for colour, etc.) Make sure to enter them in the same order in the rows and columns..

    Put a tick mark in each cell that represents a condition that the clues say exists: - that is, mark the intersection of "Brit" and "red", for instance. ("The Brit lives in a red house.")

    Now you can mark all the cells that represent intersection of the Swede, the Norski, the German or the Dane and "red".

    Now mark off all other cells that represent a condition that the clues say does NOT obtain - that is, mark off "Norwegian" and "blue" ("The Norwegian lives next door to the blue house.")

    Keep this up and, eventually you will know who keeps fish.

    (I built a matrix for this specific game, you can find it online here...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike weber View Post
    As to it being attributed to Einstein, that's hooey. And, i assure you, moe than 2% of the world's populace can solve it. In fact, it's such a common type of puzzle that puzzle fans have names for it - my own favourite is "The shortstop eats spaghetti."

    Many computer games are based on this sort of matrix puzzle - "Inspector Parker", for instance, or the shareware game "Dinner with Moriarity"

    To solve:

    set up a twenty-five by twenty-five matrix; each column and each row represents one of the characteristics (five for nationality, five for colour, etc.) Make sure to enter them in the same order in the rows and columns..

    Put a tick mark in each cell that represents a condition that the clues say exists: - that is, mark the intersection of "Brit" and "red", for instance. ("The Brit lives in a red house.")

    Now you can mark all the cells that represent intersection of the Swede, the Norski, the German or the Dane and "red".

    Now mark off all other cells that represent a condition that the clues say does NOT obtain - that is, mark off "Norwegian" and "blue" ("The Norwegian lives next door to the blue house.")

    Keep this up and, eventually you will know who keeps fish.

    (I built a matrix for this specific game, you can find it online here...)

    Some people say anything....where have you been since the puzzle was posted in May.....working it out I guess...don't know why....Hans did it over a cuppa the same week..... Merry Christmas one and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Fox View Post
    Some people say anything....where have you been since the puzzle was posted in May.....working it out I guess...don't know why....Hans did it over a cuppa the same week..... Merry Christmas one and all.
    Where i've been since it was posted in May was Not Here - just signed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike weber View Post
    Where i've been since it was posted in May was Not Here - just signed up.
    Don't know why it took you so long.....you don't know what you have missed all these years... if not asking questions!! at least answering them for others who - like me - need help to summount the untold hurdles we encounter along the way.... anyway....welcome and see if you can top the posts by Hans, which to do might mean you leave your computer on 24/7. At least that's the immpression one gets regarding Hans as I have asked questions after midnight many times & he has responded in minutes. I'm sure many readers will have seen the following amazing clip but for the benefit of others have a look at this hug.
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    Dear All,

    I sat for an hour to solve this. I cut a sheet of paper into 25 small pieces and wrote each characteristic in each of the bit. Then I started putting them on a A4 sheet on a 5X5 matrix based on the riders given. I marked each rider from 1 to 15. For each rider I marked the corresponding bit/bits that fullfilled the condition. When the position is clear I put a big tick market when the position is sealed eg- 'The Norwegian lives in the first house' or the man living in the house right in the cenre drinks milk'

    As you start making marks you will will find one by one all conditions fall in place. There will be some final adjustments before completing the puzzle. Happy hunt for those who are trying to solve this now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Fox View Post
    Some people say anything....where have you been since the puzzle was posted in May.....working it out I guess...don't know why....Hans did it over a cuppa the same week..... Merry Christmas one and all.
    To be fair he does have a point, when I was a kid I had a whole puzzle book with crosswords, word search, those puzzles where you have a whole bunch of numbers (2 digit, 3 digits up to 11 digits) that had to be fitted into a crossword type space, and these. It made it somewhat easier in that book in that it gave you the clues and did the workout and solution matrices for you, all you had to do was tick the right boxes and cross out the relevant ones until all you had left was a matrix with complete ticks and crosses. Some were easy others were hard. I used to know them as Logic Grid puzzles...

    Of course some people do not even need the matrices and I guess those would be the 2% of people that can solve this without them...

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