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    Hi, everyone

    On my pcs ..we all of course, have our own user accounts: I was wondering is there anyway I can create a Master account or lock out the computers (say, if they haven't cleaned their rooms after I've asked them for the 20th time) without going in and literally changing their passwords ..am I explaining myself clearly?... I'd like to be able to keep them off until I say ok, but still let them have there own user accounts ....running Xp home on 2 and xp pro on 2

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    You could of course use the Net User command (via the command prompt) and an option to set the logon hours to something between eleven and 11:00. That is, a "time lock"; no passwords are changed, and it should be easy to change on and off. However, if the kids have accounts with administrative privileges, well ...

    As we shall see, an empty value with the option called "Times" means it's locked all hours. But of course it can be set to 4-6 AM, which isn't that fun either.

    Cause there are some advanced settings that are only possible to change with the net user command, and not with the (three) other (User Accounts CP, User Accounts ver. 2 CP, and Local Users And Groups Console).

    I've not fiddled with this (time option) myself, but let's say something like:

    net user <account> /Times:times

    Note: This is a bit flaky, since the built in help and KB etc. says "/Times:", but the examples says "/Time:". I think you should use the latter "/Time:".

    For the option's setting, "times", you enter the days of the week and the time you want to ALLOW logon. A hyphen can be used for a range of days. If different hours different days, separate the days with a semi-colon etc. You enter time in whole hours, 1-hour increments. For abbreviations etc. see the help.

    For all hours allowed, well, then it is: net user <account> /Time:all

    For information at MSFT KB see: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/251394
    For information, with examples, in the Windows XP docs. see: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documen...s/net_user.mspx
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    BTW, there is help in the Net command ("net help"). It will tell you that for specific help you add the command, such as "net help user", and it will tell you the syntax, what you can do and how.

    To view the accounts before any changes: "Net user" will show you all user accounts available, and "net user <username>" will show you the settings for the account <username>. It will, among other things, show you, if all times are allowed: "Logon hours allowed All".

    Finally, I don't think I have to tell you to be careful when using the net command on accounts, but I will do it anyway.

    Or you could forget everything and just pull out the cables from the PCs.

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    XP has a built in lock feature that you can read about here.

    Or, you could go for a third party application like Lock My PC.
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    [quote name='DocWatson' post='777496' date='29-May-2009 22:09']XP has a built in lock feature that you can read about here.
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    But a person that has the password to his/her account can unlock the PC at the dialog box; it just locks other people out (admin excluded).

    It could of course be good if one kid wanted to lock the PC, so that not the other one used it. But it will not lock out a user that knows his password.

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    [quote name='DocWatson' post='777496' date='29-May-2009 16:09']XP has a built in lock feature that you can read about here.

    Or, you could go for a third party application like Lock My PC.[/quote]


    Oh, this is too cool!! I tried it, it works !! Argus.. I logged on to my account (administrater)and locked,, it they would need my passwword to get on.... I dont see how they could get on without it

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    [quote name='havnoclue' post='777548' date='30-May-2009 06:39']I dont see how they could get on without it[/quote]
    The simplest way would be to power the computer off and on again, then to log in using their own account.

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    [quote name='StuartR' post='777553' date='30-May-2009 03:33']The simplest way would be to power the computer off and on again, then to log in using their own account.[/quote]


    Hi Stuart,

    I thought of that. However, I think this will be enough of a deterrent ..she's basically a good kid just needs a kick now and then.. I don't think it will enter her head to power down ..if it does I'll start pulling power cords and batteries

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    Just do NOT have anything important open, when you lock the machine. If it gets "Powered OFF" you do not want the open file to be messed up.

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    [quote name='havnoclue' post='777548' date='30-May-2009 07:39']I logged on to my account (administrater)and locked,, it they would need my passwword to get on.... I dont see how they could get on without it[/quote]
    I don't know exactly what you tried, but if I assume it was the first suggestion by Doc:

    So you mean that: to lock your kids out, you're going to have the PC running all the time, logged on to your account but locked.

    That isn't particularly clever, since a simple reboot will have them back at the Welcome screen (or what's in use).

    Also, it will only "work" if you're at home and have "prepared" the PC as you described.

    I thought you were asking for a real lock.

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    [quote name='Argus' post='777591' date='30-May-2009 12:00']I don't know exactly what you tried, but if I assume it was the first suggestion by Doc:

    So you mean that: to lock your kids out, you're going to have the PC running all the time, logged on to your account but locked.

    That isn't particularly clever, since a simple reboot will have them back at the Welcome screen (or what's in use).

    Also, it will only "work" if you're at home and have "prepared" the PC as you described.

    I thought you were asking for a real lock.[/quote]

    I think that all she was interested in was deterring the kids.

    We all are aware that you cannot lock a determined, tech-savy teen out of a PC if they really want in , but I assumed that she was just looking for a way to make things more difficult and to know if they did log on when they were not supposed to. Thus, I offered the "plain vanilla" XP lock first and a more robust third party app if she was really serious about locking the system down.
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    [quote name='DocWatson' post='777598' date='30-May-2009 20:10']I think that all she was interested in was deterring the kids.

    We all are aware that you cannot lock a determined, tech-savy teen out of a PC if they really want in [/quote]
    I don't know what is wrong with:

    "net user <stubborn_teen_account_name> /time:"

    They can try all they want; they will only get a prompt that they typed the PW wrong or similar, then the PC don't have to be running all the time to block.

    And about the ""plain vanilla" XP lock" - yes, I didn't look at it from that point of view, since it, obviously, is supposed to lock the PC from inside the account currently logged on. That is, it is useless from a kid account, they know their PW. To use another account, parent, and then lock that didn't occur to me at first, since that is not a true lock as I interpreted the OP. A restart and it's "fixed". And as said, the PC must be running all the time.

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    [quote name='DocWatson' post='777598' date='30-May-2009 19:10']We all are aware that you cannot lock a determined, tech-savy teen out of a PC if they really want in[/quote]

    I suppose you could always remove the keyboard
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    And I have seen they borrow a keyboard and way they go.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    [quote name='havnoclue' post='777589' date='30-May-2009 11:36'][/quote]
    While it would be a PITA for you, if you really want to lock anyone out until you approve, then would not the simple solution be to institute a hard drive password or a BIOS password?
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    [quote name='Argus' post='777605' date='30-May-2009 15:37']I don't know what is wrong with:

    "net user <stubborn_teen_account_name> /time:"

    They can try all they want; they will only get a prompt that they typed the PW wrong or similar, then the PC don't have to be running all the time to block.

    And about the ""plain vanilla" XP lock" - yes, I didn't look at it from that point of view, since it, obviously, is supposed to lock the PC from inside the account currently logged on. That is, it is useless from a kid account, they know their PW. To use another account, parent, and then lock that didn't occur to me at first, since that is not a true lock as I interpreted the OP. A restart and it's "fixed". And as said, the PC must be running all the time.[/quote]

    I don't believe that there is anything at all wrong with your solution Argus. It does just what the OP is asking. I simply felt it was a bit complex for the OP to setup, give the consequences of an error in the setup.

    I just felt that we should provide a simple solution so the user could "pick their poison", if you will.
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