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    To get on the right track.
    I have XP on a Toshiba laptop-Everything working well for two plus years, thanks in part to advise received here.
    My goal is to get to Windows 7, as I have heard it is as good as XP has proved to be.
    I believe that I will not be able to upgrade from XP to Windows 7, correct?
    So with the stores now offering new computers with Vista & a free deal to upgrade to Windows 7 when it is available. Is it time to buy a computer with more features than my current laptop? Getting a better deal dollar wise on the hardware now rather than waiting until Windows 7 comes loaded on new laptops that will cost more then, end of October as I understand.
    A lot of questions and run on talking, I know, but want to get input on what I might do.
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    You will be better off with a NEW machine designed for Windows 7.

    Yes, I did my Beta testing of a older SONY XP machine, it ran OK, but slow.
    But I have installed the RTM on a fairly new Vista machine and it works great.

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    [quote name='TheAZGolfBum' post='789778' date='19-Aug-2009 12:36']To get on the right track.
    I have XP on a Toshiba laptop-Everything working well for two plus years, thanks in part to advise received here.
    My goal is to get to Windows 7, as I have heard it is as good as XP has proved to be.
    I believe that I will not be able to upgrade from XP to Windows 7, correct?
    So with the stores now offering new computers with Vista & a free deal to upgrade to Windows 7 when it is available. Is it time to buy a computer with more features than my current laptop? Getting a better deal dollar wise on the hardware now rather than waiting until Windows 7 comes loaded on new laptops that will cost more then, end of October as I understand.
    A lot of questions and run on talking, I know, but want to get input on what I might do.
    Thanks,
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    You haven't given any details on your current system but my first impression is that a two year old laptop should PROBABLY be able to handle Win7.
    Win 7 will be able to do a clean install, not an upgrade. You could probably dual boot if you have enough resources to do it.

    I would DL and run Win7 upgrade advisor and see what it tells you about your present system.
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    [quote name='TheAZGolfBum' post='789778' date='19-Aug-2009 11:36']To get on the right track.
    I have XP on a Toshiba laptop-Everything working well for two plus years, thanks in part to advise received here.
    My goal is to get to Windows 7, as I have heard it is as good as XP has proved to be.
    I believe that I will not be able to upgrade from XP to Windows 7, correct?
    So with the stores now offering new computers with Vista & a free deal to upgrade to Windows 7 when it is available. Is it time to buy a computer with more features than my current laptop? Getting a better deal dollar wise on the hardware now rather than waiting until Windows 7 comes loaded on new laptops that will cost more then, end of October as I understand.[/quote]

    You may be able to get good enough performance on your current machine. You need to tell us its specifications though - CPU, RAM, disk, video, etc.

    You can NOT upgrade directly from XP to Win7. That requires a clean install. You'd need to save all of your data and make sure you have installation media or files for all applications you want in Win7 before you start.

    You should download and runthe Download details: Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor Beta. It will give you a good picture of what you'll have trouble with. Also, notebooks are always the most problematic to get upgraded as many OEMs have their own versions of drivers and are likely not to have Windows 7 drivers for a two year old machine.

    As DaveA posted, since you have a machine that is at least 2 years old you'll most likely have a better experience on a machine that is designed for Win7.

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    Thanks to all!!
    This is the information about my current Toshiba: I appreciate the fast input. Please ask any questions to get me to the point where I can determine if I should;
    Buy a new, lower priced machine because they are pricing them to get rid of the last Vista machines=good deal on a better laptop.
    Keep the current machine, specs below, and then buy & clean install Windows 7 on it when available.

    Operating System2
    • Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
    • Windows Vista™ Premium Ready3
    • TOSHIBA Express Media Player
    o Quick access for CD and DVD watching
    Processor and Chipset4
    Intel® Centrino® Duo Mobile Technology featuring:
    • Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T5200
    o 1.60GHz, 2MB L2, 533MHz FSB
    • Chipset
    o Mobile Intel® 945GM Express Chipset
    • Integrated Wi-Fi® compliant wireless LAN
    o Intel® PRO/Wireless 3945ABG (802.11a/b/g)
    Memory5
    • Configured with 2048MB PC4200 DDR2 SDRAM (both memory slots may be occupied)
    • 2048MB (Min)/4096MB (Max), with 1024MB or 2048MB PC4200 or PC5300 DDR2 memory modules.
    Hard Disk Drive6
    • 160GB (5400 RPM) Serial-ATA (SATA) hard disk drive; 12.5mm height
    Fixed Optical Disk Drive7
    • DVD SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) drive supporting 11 formats
    o Maximum speed and compatibility: CD-ROM (24x), CD-R (24x), CD-RW (10x), DVD-ROM (8x), DVD-R (Single Layer, 8x), DVD-R (Double Layer, 2x), DVD-RW (4x), DVD+R (Single Layer, 8x), DVD+R (Double Layer, 2.4x), DVD+RW (4x), DVD-RAM (5x)
    Display8
    • 15.4” diagonal widescreen TruBrite™ TFT active-matrix LCD display at 1280x800 native resolution (WXGA)
    Graphics9
    • Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 with 8MB-128MB dynamically allocated shared graphics memory
    Sound
    • Built-in stereo speakers
    • Sound Volume Control Dial
    • SRS Labs audio enhancements10
    o SRS TruSurround XT® virtual surround sound
    o SRS WOW™ stereo enhancement

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    [quote name='TheAZGolfBum' post='789793' date='19-Aug-2009 18:29'][/quote]
    Just taking the CPU (Core 2 Duo at 1.6 GHz), 2 GB of RAM and a 160 GB hard disk, that looks perfectly adequate to me to run Windows 7. It probably won't run as fast as did XP, but there probably won't be much in it. My new Tosh runs at 2.4 GHz and has 4 GB of memory and the same size hard disk, and it is very happy indeed with the Windows 7 RC.

    To a large extent it depends on what you're going to use it for. If it's 'just' Office and web browsing, that should be fine.
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    [quote name='TheAZGolfBum' post='789793' date='19-Aug-2009 13:29'][/quote]
    Doesn't look bad to me.
    The only thing I would check is what would be the cost to upgrade the 2gig of RAM to 4 gigs. It has the capability to go to 4 gigs.
    If you do buy the Win7 release DVD and it lags a little, you can still keep it use it on another machine.
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    Thanks, BAT.
    The machine I was looking at:
    Toshiba Satellite
    Intel Core 2, Duo mobile processor &6400 2.0 GHz
    3 GB memory
    320 GB hard drive
    Nice machine, newer stuff, etc.

    Would allow free upgrade to Windows 7. But upgrade is NOT as good as buy it and clean install, correct?

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    [quote name='TheAZGolfBum' post='789811' date='19-Aug-2009 14:38']Toshiba Satellite
    Intel Core 2, Duo mobile processor &6400 2.0 GHz
    3 GB memory
    320 GB hard drive
    Would allow free upgrade to Windows 7. But upgrade is NOT as good as buy it and clean install, correct?[/quote]

    1.) That PC should run Windows 7 nicely.
    2.) Microsoft has done a good job on the upgrade side. An upgrade from Vista to Windows 7 is fairly painless. Howeve, a clean install more often than not gives you a better experience.

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    Dave:
    RTM?

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    [quote name='azgolfbum' post='789820' date='19-Aug-2009 15:16']Dave:
    RTM?[/quote]

    RTM = Release To Manufacturing.

    This means that the software designated as RTM is what will be sold & shipped to the end user.

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    Thanks, Joe.

    Anything else I should know before making a decision on new machine, etc.
    What will the Windows 7 cost, if you know?

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    [quote name='azgolfbum' post='789834' date='19-Aug-2009 16:13']Anything else I should know before making a decision on new machine, etc.
    What will the Windows 7 cost, if you know?[/quote]

    On a new PC, if you buy a machine with Vist Home Premium, then the upgrade to Windows 7 Home Premium will be free.

    On your existing PC, it depends on the version of Windows 7 you want to purchase. See Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows: Windows 7 Product Editions: A Comparison for more information about the various versions. You can check online and local retail for "live" pricing.

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    [quote name='joeperez' post='789874' date='20-Aug-2009 03:52']On a new PC, if you buy a machine with Vist Home Premium, then the upgrade to Windows 7 Home Premium will be free.[/quote]
    "Free" - apart from shipping and handling, which for qualifying Toshibas in the UK is £27.90 inc VAT...
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    [quote name='azgolfbum' post='789834' date='19-Aug-2009 17:13']Thanks, Joe.

    Anything else I should know before making a decision on new machine, etc.
    What will the Windows 7 cost, if you know?

    David[/quote]

    According to today's edition of the Windows Secrets newsletter, you can get any version of Windows 7 FREE for 120 days to try. So you can check out how Windows 7 works on your system at no cost to you excep to perhaps make an image backup of your current system, just in case you don't like the change.
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