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    Are there any count or file size limits in Windows Live Mail?

    What about Outlook Express?

    I started a thread a few days ago about missing mesages in my wife's Inbox in Outlook Express. As I said in that thread, the missing message all came back a day or so later! Well, today many more disappeared -- all the way back to 2005! That's something like 9000 messages missing. I have installed Windows Live Mail and it is in the process of importing the messages from Outlook Express. I'm hoping it will get the missing ones too.

    Bill

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    [quote name='BillWilson' post='791835' date='02-Sep-2009 11:52']Are there any count or file size limits in Windows Live Mail?

    What about Outlook Express?[/quote]

    OE is notorious for have database issues. WLM is a new product that should have fewer problems when it comes to larger numbers of e-mails and product stability.

    As far as file size goes I'd guess that WLM would handle larger files better. I think WLM has a size limit for attachments of 20MB. Be aware that every e-mail provider can (and usually does) set an overall size limit for each email. So, even though you may be able to email something with a 10MB attachment the recipient email provider may not allow a file that big.

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    [quote name='BillWilson' post='791835' date='02-Sep-2009 12:52']Are there any count or file size limits in Windows Live Mail?

    What about Outlook Express?

    I started a thread a few days ago about missing mesages in my wife's Inbox in Outlook Express. As I said in that thread, the missing message all came back a day or so later! Well, today many more disappeared -- all the way back to 2005! That's something like 9000 messages missing. I have installed Windows Live Mail and it is in the process of importing the messages from Outlook Express. I'm hoping it will get the missing ones too.

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    According to http://askville.amazon.com/max-file-size-s...questId=7181603 it's 10MB but as Joe said, there can also be limitations placed by your provider.
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    [quote name='joeperez' post='791839' date='02-Sep-2009 12:59']OE is notorious for have database issues. WLM is a new product that should have fewer problems when it comes to larger numbers of e-mails and product stability.

    As far as file size goes I'd guess that WLM would handle larger files better. I think WLM has a size limit for attachments of 20MB. Be aware that every e-mail provider can (and usually does) set an overall size limit for each email. So, even though you may be able to email something with a 10MB attachment the recipient email provider may not allow a file that big.

    Joe[/quote]
    I should have been clearer. I am not really concerned about the size of a given message but the total size of all the messages in a folder's .dbx file (OE) or the total size of all the saved messages. And, likewise, is there a maximum count of the messages that can be saved in one folder or in all of OE or Win Live Mail?

    BTW, I did not reply earlier becasue I was waiting for an emailed notice that someone had posted a response and it never came! This has happened in almost every case in this forum lately. I did check the item that said I wanted to receive email notification -- I had to check that in spite of the fact that I have that set as the default in my account's properties!

    Thanks to both of you for your replies.
    Bill

    P.S. I have replaced OE with Windows Live Mail on my wife's PC and it seems to working OK in spite of her huge number of saved messages. The messages that had "disappeared" seem to all be present after the message transfer.

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    [quote name='BillWilson' post='792352' date='06-Sep-2009 16:15']I should have been clearer. I am not really concerned about the size of a given message but the total size of all the messages in a folder's .dbx file (OE) or the total size of all the saved messages. And, likewise, is there a maximum count of the messages that can be saved in one folder or in all of OE or Win Live Mail?

    P.S. I have replaced OE with Windows Live Mail on my wife's PC and it seems to working OK in spite of her huge number of saved messages. The messages that had "disappeared" seem to all be present after the message transfer.[/quote]

    In OE with a .dbx file you have to consider the file size limit for the OS in use. I don't know what limits OE may have in it. I just know that OE is a bad database manager. In WLM the messages are not in a .dbx file buy each message is in a .eml file. I don't know what the limit is other than whatever the OS limit is for files in a folder.

    Glad WLM is working well for your wife so far.

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    Thanks Joe. My recollection is that a 32-bit OS can have files up to 3 GB and not any larger. Do you know if that is true? I think the OE Inbox was very close to that size so maybe that is what caused it to stop displaying many of the messages.

    One thing that concerned me when I let WLM import all the messages is that I had not compacted the OE messages before doing the import. I was afraid to do that -- I was afraid compacting might make all the messages that were "missing" at that time become missing permenantly. I hope that the import process did not import all the "deleted" messages that had not been actually eliminated!

    One disadvantage of WLM in my case is that it now takes more than 10 times longer to do the backup now! I suppose that is because there are thousands more files to backup now.

    Thanks for your follow-up.
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    [quote name='BillWilson' post='792379' date='06-Sep-2009 20:24']Thanks Joe. My recollection is that a 32-bit OS can have files up to 3 GB and not any larger. Do you know if that is true? I think the OE Inbox was very close to that size so maybe that is what caused it to stop displaying many of the messages.

    One thing that concerned me when I let WLM import all the messages is that I had not compacted the OE messages before doing the import. I was afraid to do that -- I was afraid compacting might make all the messages that were "missing" at that time become missing permenantly. I hope that the import process did not import all the "deleted" messages that had not been actually eliminated!

    One disadvantage of WLM in my case is that it now takes more than 10 times longer to do the backup now! I suppose that is because there are thousands more files to backup now.[/quote]

    In OE the maximum dbx size is 2GB. See Information about the maximum file size of the .dbx files that are used by Outlook Express.

    As far as the maximum for a 32-bit OS, that is more a limit of the particular application program. For instance Outlook 2007 can accomodate a Unicode .pst (or .ost) file up to 20GB.

    Joe

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    [quote name='BillWilson' post='792379' date='06-Sep-2009 21:24']Thanks Joe. My recollection is that a 32-bit OS can have files up to 3 GB and not any larger. Do you know if that is true? I think the OE Inbox was very close to that size so maybe that is what caused it to stop displaying many of the messages.

    One thing that concerned me when I let WLM import all the messages is that I had not compacted the OE messages before doing the import. I was afraid to do that -- I was afraid compacting might make all the messages that were "missing" at that time become missing permenantly. I hope that the import process did not import all the "deleted" messages that had not been actually eliminated!

    One disadvantage of WLM in my case is that it now takes more than 10 times longer to do the backup now! I suppose that is because there are thousands more files to backup now.

    Thanks for your follow-up.
    Bill[/quote]

    Have you tried doing some file management on that Inbox ?? If you were to create a subfolder for each person in your address book, or something similar, to breakup the file size of the Inbox that might correct the problem since the size of the "individual" .dbx files would be smaller that the Inbox.dbx file that now exists, OE (or WLM) should have an easier time managing the database and you should have an easier time sorting through all that historical communication. 9,000 old emails ????
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    [quote name='DocWatson' post='792435' date='07-Sep-2009 11:06']Have you tried doing some file management on that Inbox ?? If you were to create a subfolder for each person in your address book, or something similar, to breakup the file size of the Inbox that might correct the problem since the size of the "individual" .dbx files would be smaller that the Inbox.dbx file that now exists, OE (or WLM) should have an easier time managing the database and you should have an easier time sorting through all that historical communication. 9,000 old emails ???? [/quote]
    Remember, this is my wife's email, not mine! I keep getting after her to delete some and she has actually started working on that since these problems came up.

    Bill

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