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    I have just installed Windows 7, it includes Defender. Is this program any good or should I install an antivirus/internet security prom someone like Norton,Kaspersky etc.

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    Windows Defender is a limited security application. I'd replace it with a more complete one. Norton and Kaspersky are good, but Microsoft has a free one that gets good reviews: Microsoft Security Essentials.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HansV View Post
    Windows Defender is a limited security application. I'd replace it with a more complete one. Norton and Kaspersky are good, but Microsoft has a free one that gets good reviews: Microsoft Security Essentials.
    It is my understanding that Microsoft Security Essentials disables Windows Defender when it is installed, as MSE includes an anti-spyware component. AVG 9 disables Defender also without offering any facility to disable its own anti-spyware component.
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    Sounds reasonable. Thanks for the heads up.


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    Thanks for the info.
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    I think this thread is relevant to my question as I'm using Windows 7..

    " I've just uninstalled Bullguards 3 month trial, and installed AVG Free antivirus protection. I find that Windows Defender is currently turned off. I assume I don't need to turn it on since AVG's antispyware component would do a better job ? Would there be any point in running both ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank From Wakefield View Post
    I find that Windows Defender is currently turned off. I assume I don't need to turn it on since AVG's antispyware component would do a better job ? Would there be any point in running both ?
    You should not have more than one real time anti-malware program running at a time. At some point they will conflict in using resources and lock your system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulB View Post
    AVG 9 disables Defender also without offering any facility to disable its own anti-spyware component.
    Interesting, you made me go check and I found out that AVG-9 also disables Comodo Internet Security's Defense+!

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    I just find it hard to justify paying for AV or AM that I can find quality replacements for free. Yes MSE does turn Defender off because it includes both an excellent AV and an excellent AM product. As with all other such products, defender is turned off by default because it would most likely cause conflicts with MSE (2 products running at the same time). I am very pleased with MSE. It is an excellent product that runs very unobtrusively in the backgroud protecting my system. Thank you to MS for this free product.
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    And thank you guys for your prompt reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeP View Post
    You should not have more than one real time anti-malware program running at a time. At some point they will conflict in using resources and lock your system.

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    Does this mean that I should uninstall Security Essentials if I'm using McAfee Total Protection? I've had a problem with intermittent lockups since installing Win 7 a couple of months ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Gibson View Post
    Does this mean that I should uninstall Security Essentials if I'm using McAfee Total Protection? I've had a problem with intermittent lockups since installing Win 7 a couple of months ago.
    You should only have one real time package running at once. This may be causing your lockups.
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    Microsoft Security Essential is good. It will automatically disable Defender as it includes its own Spyware utility. It updates using the Windows Update utility - usually three times a day. Its best feature is it is free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Farrell View Post
    Microsoft Security Essential is good. It will automatically disable Defender as it includes its own Spyware utility. It updates using the Windows Update utility - usually three times a day. Its best feature is it is free.

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    I agree. I have been using MSE for several months on 7 PC's with no issues. After what I read recently about McAfee I would not even consider trying it.
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    As a few people have said already Microsoft Security Essentials is actually good and I never thought I would hear/read myself saying that about a free Microsoft product. Unfortunately for McAfee they've had some set backs of recent and true there probably isn't a strong case to support using it over MSE at the moment.

    I would actually support MSE being offered as an installable item (optional of course) in SP1 for Windows 7 for anyone who doesn't have a preferred 3rd party choice.

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