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    IE6 upgrade destabilized my machine (IE6 on WinME)

    Hoo boy! A couple of days ago I decided it was time to install IE 6.
    Everything seemed OK.
    Then I thought I'd better check Windows Udate to make sure I was really current.
    It just kept flashing the taskbar over and over...
    Then I read in Langa that this could be fixed by following the instructions at <A target="_blank" HREF=http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;q193385>http://support.microsoft.com/directory/art...B;EN-US;q193385</A>.
    So... I tried to do what it said but since it was talking about Win98 and IE5.5 things were slightly different.
    I ended up ennabling just about everything but still the only way I could get Windows Update to open was by making it a 'trusted site'.
    I then downloaded and installed everything available.

    Now I go back and try to access the Lounge. Guess what - I get the same flashing taskbar and no dice until I also make that a 'trusted site'...

    Everywhere I go I get the same problem...

    Now I discover that desktop programs I use on a daily basis suddenly start asking for passwords and even when I enter them they don't remember and instead of opening they just keep asking...

    So... I decided to revert to IE 5.5.
    But... it kept all the new botched up settings and everything is STILL hosed!

    NOW what do I do???????????????
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    Re: IE6 upgrade destabilized my machine (IE6 on WinME)

    Hi
    In short : ditch ME immediately and install Win 2kP. How you were ever persuaded to load this monstrosity, must be one of the major questions yet left for Science to answer.
    You could also try wiping out the following folders : Cookies, Temp, Temporary Internet Files (apart from Index.dat) and History. They'll re-build, but meanwhile you'll need to log on again at all those sites you used to get into automatically. Also experiment with the security/privacy settings in IE6 - you may have them set too high. I'm assuming you've gone down the 'Install-browser-but-choose-Repair' route?

    Cheers

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    Re: IE6 upgrade destabilized my machine (IE6 on WinME)

    Bad news! IE6 doesn't work properly on Win2k either!
    They have really messed this one up. Wish I never installed it too. My problem is that I cannot properly view any page containing java applets without installing Java virtual machine for every <font color=red>single page and every single time! </font color=red>Moreover it fails to permanently install but, nevertheless, I can view the page.
    What a nightmare!!
    See post 74717

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    Re: IE6 upgrade destabilized my machine (IE6 on WinME)

    It had corrupted my registry. I managed to repair it and I'm happily back in business - using 5.5...
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    Re: IE6 upgrade destabilized my machine (IE6 on WinME)

    Hi
    Sorry guys, but I find it handles javascript and runs Java with no trouble on any of the three platforms I use. Nevertheless, it is relatively untried (beta testing apart) and I wouldn't advise installing it to system on which your livelihood depends.

    The problem may be down to not having a JVM installed by default in the released version. Ovbiously, if you have to download this for every page there is something seriously wrong - but you knew that already.

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    Re: IE6 upgrade destabilized my machine (IE6 on WinME)

    On both machines I have downloaded only the one time and the JS pages seem to run just fine [knockingonwood] (we need one of these?). I have NOT seen any machines first hand that have had any problems with IE 6.0. I have a feeling that some of these browser tools may not be working well with IE6.

    Are any of you having problems with IE 6, running any browser tools? If so which ones?

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: IE6 upgrade destabilized my machine (IE6 on WinME)

    <img src=/S/scratch.gif border=0 alt=scratch width=25 height=29> *asking really dumb, stupid question*...what browser tools? ....told you it was a dumb, stupid question...CRS has set in today - I am concentrating on stupid scanner right now, so my 'little gray cells' aren't functioning. <img src=/S/frown.gif border=0 alt=frown width=15 height=15>

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    Re: IE6 upgrade destabilized my machine (IE6 on WinME)

    Any of those app's that help you with your "Cookies", Pop Up and Under ads and etc. It is NOT that you have CRS, it was just my used of not explaining my usage of the word "Tools".

    Now running HP Pavilion a6528p, with Win7 64 Bit OS.

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    Re: IE6 upgrade destabilized my machine (IE6 on WinME)

    <img src=/S/rofl.gif border=0 alt=rofl width=15 height=15> But CRS has set in...
    Privacy, Cookies is ok...especially the Privacy works great! I still get 'cookies' I don't want - getting tired of typing in all the bad cookies - listing has 87 cookies, of which 26 are 'good'...some I can't type in cuz they are part of the "dbl click gang".
    Haven't used the 'Media' thing at all - don't listen to music while using the computer. What else is there? <img src=/S/doh.gif border=0 alt=doh width=15 height=15>

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    Re: IE6 upgrade destabilized my machine (IE6 on WinME)

    Well, I am an average user of the computer...and that entire report just made more confusion for me.

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    Re: IE6 upgrade destabilized my machine (IE6 on WinME)

    Interesting. I am very sorry you did not understand. Given the fact that you have 87 cookies in your Cookie folder, you could benefit from implementing a more intensive Privacy Policy on your computer.

    I look at it as a user who is very interested in Privacy and Security and I found it very easy to understand. I suspect it takes a general knowledge of Security Zones (Restricted and Trusted sites), Privacy Issues, and Cookies of which the average user might not be aware. However, with the increasingly virulent worms and viruses out there, I encourage every user to learn as much as they can about these issues. It is in their best interest.

    This really leads me to the disturbing underlying issue. People look at IE6's new Privacy tab and they assume that they have now been given greater control of their Privacy. In one sense, they have. But in reality, they have not. They have been sold a bag of rocks and they seem pleased to be holding it.

    Even Woody's newsletters hail the new Privacy settings in IE6 as an advancement. Yet, has Woody actually looked into the implications? I think not. Any one who critically evaluates the new Privacy Control in IE6 will find it inadequate. It is a sham that has been thrust upon us and we sit back and smile in our blissful ignorance and naivete.

    Eric's page is the first that I know of that actually TESTS how the new Privacy tab works IN THE REAL WORLD. Not in some theoretical environment. This clearly shows that the default settings in IE6 do not provide the increased security for which everyone had hoped.

    I will rephrased my statement...

    If you have some underlying knowledge of Security zones and their settings, First-party and Third-party cookies and their significance, and potential privacy risks from cookies, then and only then do I recommend you review Eric's page. ;-)

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    Re: IE6 upgrade destabilized my machine (IE6 on WinME)

    <P ID="edit" class=small>Edited by DaveA on 20-Sep-01 12:16.</P>Added HOT link code

    If you have any desire to read a LONG report on SOME of the issues with IE6 and Cookie Control, I highly recommend you read this page:
    <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~ehowes/ie6-p3p.htm>http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~ehowes/ie6-p3p.htm</A>

    Eric has done an outstanding job of analyzing what IE6 "Privacy Control" can and cannot do.

    Personally, I have IE6 running with my own XML Import file and it is working superbly! I highly recommend it.

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    IE 5.x Cookie strategy

    I don't use IE6 and from the looks of it, I should be in no hurry to upgrade. My cookie strategy is to put annoying advertisers' domains into the Restricted zone, using wildcards such as *.doubleclick.net, and set the Restricted zone to refuse all cookies, scripting, applets, etc. I have been building this list for about a year now, and I hardly ever come across a third party cookie request (I set prompt for cookies, and when I get around to trusting a site, I put it on my trusted sites list and stop screening). Maybe this is a short term workaround, or even a viable strategy for IE6.

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    Re: IE 5.x Cookie strategy

    What you are referring to is the process that Eric calls the "Restricted Zone Block List" -- a list of sites that you choose to block by adding them into the Restricted sites zone.

    Eric has painstakingly taken the Martin's Hosts file and extracted all the major third-party advertising sites from it. He has then created a .reg file that can be merged into your registry. This file he has titled "IE-SPYADS" -- and that technique is one of the SIX different methods that he used in his analysis.

    This technique was highly effective, however, it was NOT the most effective method as you cannot always know the origin of a third party cookie ahead of time. The two other techniques that proved superior to this were:

    1) Fully block cookies in your Internet zone and add the sites you wish to visit and do business with into you Trusted sites Zone.
    2) Use an XML Import file to give specific instructions on how IE6 should handle your cookies.

    If you examine Eric's results you will see the latter technique was the most effective method.

    If you are interested in downloading and using Eric's list of Restricted sites (this includes such well-known sites as doubleclick, focalink, and flyswat), it is available from within the link I listed above.

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    Re: IE 5.x Cookie strategy

    Oh, hey, I didn't go to the link to see that he already covered this strategy. But I don't mind making my own lists as I go. I'm wary of pre-configured filters, and I learn more this way. <img src=/S/smile.gif border=0 alt=smile width=15 height=15>

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