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    Hello,

    With ref to windows secrets new letter dated 03-12-2009 " Using Windows' built-in disk-imaging utility" by By Fred Langa

    He has written that Disk imaging — the gold standard of backups — is built into all versions of Windows 7 and some versions of Vista, but it's also available for XP.

    My system OS is windows XP professinal with sp-3,

    I would like to know How to get the built -in disk imaging specility in windows xp.

    Since windows xp's backup and restore specility, taking a backup of system drive and restoring is not possible when window is not booting.

    Also the ASR specility requires a floppy drive, It is nit possible to use "cd".

    also restriction in making it work all installed applications.

    So I request experts to clear my doubt ,how to get the Disk imaging -built -in specility in Windows XP,and to use a boot-cd to take backup and restore.

    At present I am using Diskimage XML for disk image backup.

    Kasinath

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    The short answer is that you can't use this utility on an XP box.

    From Fred's article.... "Of course, you can accomplish the same tasks in any version of Windows using third-party tools such as Acronis True Image (more info), Norton Ghost (more info), and my personal favorite for non-Win7 systems, Terabyte Unlimited's geeky-but-powerful BootItNG (more info). All three programs make disk images and bootable recovery discs that can be used to restore an image even to a raw, unformatted drive."
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocWatson View Post
    From Fred's article....
    I'm no expert on imaging, and I apologize if this is a dumb question, but I read the description of Image for Windows on the Terabyte Unlimited site linked to in Fred's article and couldn't tell if it does what I want to do.

    I have an existing 4-year-old hard drive that's working fine (call it Drive X) and I want to replace it with a new and larger one (call it Drive Y) and I want to image Drive X directly onto Drive Y. The description of Image for Windows on the Terabyte Unlimited site seems to talk only in terms of using it as a backup utility, leading me to wonder if I'd have to clone Drive X to Drive Y by first backing up Drive X as an image to a third hard drive (or series of DVDs, or whatever), and then restoring the backup onto Drive Y. If this is the case I think I'd rather spring the extra $$ for Norton Ghost (which can just clone one drive directly onto a second drive, without the need for an intermediate "backup" step).

    I suspect Image for Windows can do this also, but if so, I'm mystified as to why they don't clearly say so on their website.

    Also: If Image for Windows can clone a drive directly, I'd be interested in hearing if any other loungers have had positive or negative experiences using it for that.

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    st3333ve:

    Yes, Image for Windows and Image for DOS (I'd use the latter, by the way) can both clone a drive. Your new Drive Y will almost certainly come with cloning software of its own, for what it's worth.

    I've not cloned a drive with Image for DOS or Image for Windows; I simply know it's supported. The Image 4 Windows user's guide describes the procedure at page 80 of the manual. It's on page 59 of the Image for DOS user's guide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy J. McGowan View Post
    Yes, Image for Windows and Image for DOS (I'd use the latter, by the way) can both clone a drive. Your new Drive Y will almost certainly come with cloning software of its own, for what it's worth.
    Thanks -- and it sounds like things are better than I thought. Are you saying that if I just buy a garden-variety Western Digital hard drive, it will come with a CD with software to clone my old drive onto it? (That would explain why Terabyte Unlimited doesn't bother boasting about their software's cloning ability.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by st3333ve View Post
    Are you saying that if I just buy a garden-variety Western Digital hard drive, it will come with a CD with software to clone my old drive onto it?
    st3333ve:

    Just about. I haven't bought a new hard drive in a couple of years, so I'm telling you what my experience in the past has been. But I'd be shocked if they discontinued the practice. Hope they've moved from floppy disks to CDs, though, as a lot of computers these days don't have floppy drives! <G>

    Oh. I think now's the time to buy a hard drive. Here's the downloads available for Western Digital's Blue line of drives, for instance (PATA). Acronis True Image WD Edition is top of the list...

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    I use BootIt Next Generation for drive imaging.

    Yes I have successfully used a BING image restored to a new hard drive as an upgrade path, a couple of times now. I then used the partitioning tool in BING to resize the restored partition to the full size of the drive.

    I use BING drive imaging routinely for backups. BING can be installed on the hard drive or run from a floppy drive or a CD.

    BootIt Next Generation is a powerful, multifaceted tool.
    Create a fresh drive image before making system changes, in case you need to start over!

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