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    I've had Paint Shop Pro for years. I'm sure it does much, much more than I use it for. But my needs are simple (jpg enlargements, drawing arrows and circles, scaling photos down for easy transmission, and the occasional redeye and photo editing tools, and it's good enough.

    Now there is a problem with missing or corrupted python libraries, whatever those are.

    To make matters worse, Corel now wants me to pay for tech support for a product I continue to upgrade.

    Is now the time to go with GIMP or PAINT (or some other free program) that lets me manipulate picture files, or should I just bite the bullet and buy the upgrade to Paint Shop Pro X2 Ultimate (for $49.99)?

    Thanks.

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    Putting on my honorary temporary Moderator hat. Please don't post the same question in two different forums. If you think you've posted to the wrong forum, contact a "real" moderator to have one of them move the thread for you.

    This is essentially the same question as in your Dumping Paint Shop thread, but with a follow up.

    As far as biting the bullet - it depends on what you need to do and how much you are willing to spend.

    For me GIMP or Paint.net are more than adequate for my needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbarron View Post
    This is essentially the same question as in your Dumping Paint Shop thread, but with a follow up.
    Thanks for alerting us mbarron - I locked the thread in the Other MS Apps forum as this is the more appropriate forum
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    My take:
    Don't buy any more PSP, it has gone down hill since acquired by Corel.
    GIMP, Paint.net or even Irfanview can do what you describe.
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    Get "The Gimp" !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Watson View Post
    Get "The Gimp" !!!
    I'm a fan of GIMP too. If you want to deal with red-eye, which you specifically mentioned, there isn't a red-eye tool "out of the box" in GIMP (though I generally deal with the problem by had, as it were) but there is an extension you can download (and install really easily) that adds a red-eye tool to the menus.

    One of the most impressive red-eye tools, I think, comes with Picasa which is free and a lot of the time it works out for itself where the eyes are that you might want to correct.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IanWilson View Post
    I'm a fan of GIMP too.

    One of the most impressive red-eye tools, I think, comes with Picasa which is free and a lot of the time it works out for itself where the eyes are that you might want to correct.

    Ian
    In re Picasa I LOVE that red-eye feature You can undo it if you don't like it as well. I am just now starting to get accustomed to GIMP but haven't by any means mastered or even come close to figuring it all out, so I still revert to Picasa to do batch resizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Jude View Post
    I am just now starting to get accustomed to GIMP but haven't by any means mastered or even come close to figuring it all out
    There are some great tutorials at*http://meetthegimp.org/ done (in English) by a German science teacher called Rolf Steinort. The Tables of Content link at the right takes you to a listing of the first 110 shows. (He's now up to number 132.)


    Don't bother to look at Episode 2 "Setting up The Gimp" because he does basically the same show again later for the latest version at Episode 66, and that might be a good place to start.

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    The Tables of Content link at the right takes you to a listing of the first 110 shows. (He's now up to number 132.)
    That's funny! I knew GIMP was complicated to use but 132 episodes? I know there must be a lot of practical examples, but still, that's funny, especially in relation to Neal's simple needs.

    I would definitely see if Picasa could meet the requirements first. Also a free program called FastStone Image Viewer, which does far more than the name would imply (sort of like Irfanview), has many tools including a draw board that may meet the need for arrows and circles to be placed on the image and it has the best resize tool filter I know of (Lanczos3), and I think its at least 126 episodes (est.) easier to use!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron Tarbox View Post
    That's funny! I knew GIMP was complicated to use but 132 episodes? I know there must be a lot of practical examples, but still, that's funny, especially in relation to Neal's simple needs.
    Yes, well, the pointer to the tutorials was a reply to Hey Jude who was talking of getting to grips with GIMP. And you don't think anything is odd if a photo magazine has a new article in every issue teaching you something new you can do with Photoshop, so what is so strange about an ongoing series of tutorials about GIMP?

    And GIMP costs about 627.45 less than Photoshop.

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    so what is so strange about an ongoing series of tutorials about GIMP?

    And GIMP costs about 627.45 less than Photoshop
    Absolutely nothing strange at all in a comparative relationship between GIMP and Photoshop. The original post indicates "simple" needs though and I was focusing on that. I love the concept of GIMP but when it comes to using it in a productive workflow, I spew fried brain drippin's. Photoshop is not much better but those clever lads at Adobe came up with Bridge and then Lightroom to help fill in some of the gaping gaps and Lightroom is another $300 (hence, clever) to make the whole package even more ridiculous as far as price goes, so free AND simple is better if it suffices.

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    I apologize for the belated reply. Things have been wildly hectic around here.

    First, I apologize for the double post. I didn't know it was bad form and I appreciate the gentle education.

    Second, I sincerely appreciate the guidance and sharing of experience. It really helps a lot. The Lounge has always had a spirit of generosity and technical ignoramuses (ignoramii?) like me are grateful.

    Though I liked the sound of it, GIMP seemed way too complex. I've been using Irfanview, which is just okay. It does enough of what I need for now. When I couldn't figure out how to add arrows and text boxes in Irfanview, a friend who is a true genius suggested using PowerPoint.

    Thanks again.

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    Does PowerPoint have a little photo editing component to it or do you need to import it as a slide overlay and then make changes?

    I've been using the Draw Board component of Faststone Image Viewer since I found it and recommended it and it is simple and easy to use and of course free. Thought bubbles, shapes (mostly elipses and rectangles but there is a pen tool as well), arrrows and text. There's even a drop shadow option for items placed which is a nice touch I think.

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    <<Does PowerPoint have a little photo editing component to it or do you need to import it as a slide overlay and then make changes?>>

    I delete the title and sub-title boxes and import the photo (Insert, Picture, From File).

    Then I just use the features in the drawing and picture toolbars.

    I group and save the image as a jpg. And I can also resize the images for easier e-mail transmission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NealNYC View Post
    I delete the title and sub-title boxes and import the photo (Insert, Picture, From File).
    If you use the Task Bar and have the Layout choices displayed, you also can click the blank slide to clear the boxes. Probably won't save much time, but might protect against their future reappearance.

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