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    I discovered a heat problem in my main drive (it was running at 60C) and I have replaced it. Both the replacement and the second drive now run cooler but still marginally high. They typically run at just a degree or two under 50C but, if the room temperature increases a degree or two or if my system suddenly decides to do something that stresses the drives such as a scan or backup, they will increase to 50C or perhaps even a degree or two higher.

    The disk monitoring software that checks the SMART data regularly (Crystal Disk Info) kicks out a temperature warning at 50C. I believe this warning level is set by the manufacturer is their SMART parms so they consider 50C to be too high. In addition, my GPU runs rather hot at about 62C normally. There are reasons both the drives and the GPU run rather hot and I would like to provide some better cooling. The reason these items run hot is that I commonly have one of my monitors in use displaying TV programming from a Hauppauge tuner. The decoding and display of TV puts a significant load on both the CPU (Core 2 Quad 6600) and the GPU (Nvidia GeForce 9600GT). In addition, the WinTV software writes continuously to the second drive in order to provide features such as "Instant Replay" etc. Any additional work, such as Photoshop work or background activity such as a scan, will drive all four processors up over 50% and cause the drives to work quite hard.

    The CPU is not much of a problem since it's fan draws fresh air in through the side of the case through a directing 'funnel' directly to the CPU cooler. This fan is speed controlled to keep the CPU at a reasonable temperature. The case fan on the back of the case is also speed controlled by a sensor on the motherboard. The PSU fan also exhausts air but is not monitored. The GPU fan on the 9600 board is likely speed controlled by the Nvidia on-board hardware. It doesn't directly exhaust any air.

    The two internal drives are in a cage at the front of the case and are separated from each other by an empty drive bay. They 'must' be separated because the separating bay is encroached upon by the rear power connector on the Nvidia GPU board so that I couldn't put a drive in that bay even if I wanted to. The front ventilation allows air into bottom front of the case then up a channel created by the removable front panel and through the perforated front of the drive bay cage.

    What I would like to do (if I can find the appropriate cooler(s)) is install a cooling device in the empty drive bay between the two internal disks that would draw air into the case through the front channel and cool the drive above and below the bay. It would then pass through the case helping with GPU cooling and case cooling in general. As an alternative, I might be able to mount a thin fan within the channel formed by the front panel to blow air into the case through the perforated front of the drive bay cage. There doesn't seem to be any reasonable way to mount another rear fan.

    Can anyone suggest any appropriate hardware or an alternative. I have searched in particular for drive coolers but they all appear to focus on blowing internal air over the drive. None seem to make a point of drawing their air from the front of the cage. By simply blowing internal air down (or up) over a drive and then exhausting that air in all directions, they could easily reduce the fresh air intake through the front channel. I really need some device that will draw air in through the front of the case, then over the drives and out the rear of the case.

    I just realized this post would have been more appropriate elsewher but I can't find any way to move it. Sorry.

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    If you have a spare 51/2 inch bay or two, a disk cooler like this works really well.
    If you posted some pictures of your case, internal and external, or provided a link to the case specs that would help
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    Here are some pictures appropriately labelled to indicate various components. I have never posted a picture in this forum so I hope this works.








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    I've played this game longer than I'd ever want to admit to.
    And I've spent enough money on gadgets that claim to keep a HD cool to buy me another new PC.

    I applied expertise I gained while working in an Air Flow lab, to come up with my own solution to HOT HD's.
    Here's the result of years of testing and experimenting.



    This is a Two-Fan "VIO" cooler, affixed to the HD with 1/4" standoffs, to greatly increase air flow.
    I've applied this technique to all my hard drives for the past ten years and all my HD's remain at room
    temperature even during degrag's or Ghost Backups.

    I buy those little two-fan coolers for at little at $3 each.

    Just a word to the wise.

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    Is that a grill I see in front of the lower HD cages, front lower case [last photo]?
    If you have just 25-30 mm of space, you might be able to squeeze a 120 mm fan or two in there, stacked
    one ontop of the other.

    Modify Front Lower case
    Probably the best you could do without changing out your case would be to get a couple, or at least
    one 120 mm fan in the front lower area of the case, in front of the drives. Cool air coming from the front would also help
    with overall cooling. There looks like side vents in the front lower end of the case in picture 2. You may even be able to
    modify the lower front end of the case by drilling holes to accommodate better airflow.

    HDD Coolers
    120 mm Case fans
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    Dr Who;

    I have looked at several drive coolers such as the one you show but they all fail to direct air from front of case toward the back.

    I had hoped to find a cooler that would occupy one drive bay and pull air through the cage and cool the drive above as well as below the device while enhancing case air flow from front to back.

    Clint;
    There is certainly a grill at the front of the disk bay (front of case) that allows air into the case. This 'grill' is covered with the decorative front panel on the case that stands out about 25mm creating an air channel up the front of the case. Air is allowed into the this area through vents on the bottom of the case (bottom of decorative front). This decorative front is removable and, if I cannot find a device that will fit into an empty drive bay, I will attempt to mount a couple of small fans in this space to blow air in through the grill. This space is only about 25mm (1") deep by something less than the width of the case. Approximately 120mm x 150mm x 25mm. I doubt there is room to mount a fan that is 25mm or thicker and that is the thickness of most fans. I can get a couple of 40mm x 40mm x 10mm fans that should mount and do the job and be relatively silent. http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/ac...0l_detail.html

    I don't quite know how I should mount such fans other than to screw them down with metal screws. I am thinking of using a daub of silicon at each corner instead. Hopefully that would hold them while providing some vibration dampening. It would also eliminate the need to drill into the case with the attendant risks of metal fragments getting where they shouldn't.

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    If your up for something alittle more ambitious, a change in case might cure your heating ills, and then some.
    This is a decent case and it's very similar to your own, especially the side intake funnel for the CPU and a 120 mm fan in front of the HDD cage. Except this has alot more room to play around in and is still only a midrange...

    HEC 6XR8 Black 0.8mm Thickness SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLiNT View Post
    If your up for something alittle more ambitious, a change in case might cure your heating ills, and then some.
    This is a decent case and it's very similar to your own, especially the side intake funnel for the CPU and a 120 mm fan in front of the HDD cage. Except this has alot more room to play around in and is still only a midrange...

    HEC 6XR8 Black 0.8mm Thickness SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    Its a good looking case and, if I were about to do a build, I would be looking for something like it. At least it doesn't seem to be lit up with garish flashing lights. My current case from Acer, when the system is put in Sleep or Hibernate, looks like a snow removal vehicle going down the highway with a blue flashing beacon. I've had a piece of black electrical tape over it since 'Day Two'.

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    Want options? Boy, do I have options.



    I installed a fan in the upper 2 bay front panels to blow cool outside air across my main HD, which also has its own two-fan cooler.

    Then, with the front panel (plastic) removed I snipped out the grill over the two case-fan
    locations and installed two standard size case fans.

    Behind those two fans are three more hard drives, in the lower drive bays, each one
    with its own cooler attached.

    The finished product stays nice and cool, with a large exhaust fan in the back of the case
    taking out all the hot air.


    That was the first thing I installed as I started building this PC.

    The finished product.............


    Due to differences in cases, each person has to find their own solutions to heat removal.

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    Dr Who;

    You must be really beating up on your system to require that much cooling.

    My front plastic case is similar to yours (at least the bottom half) and I intend to install a fan or two in the space between the plastic front and the metal grill. I might even cut out the grill work as you did but I have no space inside the main case to mount fans as you did. I might be able to mount drive coolers on the two drives in there but that will be phase 2.

    I am unwilling to start anything until after I do our taxes. I Canada, the tax man comes at the end of April and I need my system working until I have submitted our returns and received confirmation.

    I have a name badge around somewhere from a previous place of employment and below my name it gives my job title as "Procrastination Specialist". I need to dig it out again.

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